but there is a bit of missing context to that quote
In my opinion the most relevant context is that the SPD voted in favor of the new inhumane EU policy of rejecting even fugitive children at EU borders.
Thanks for fixing, indeed my autocorrect kicked w/o me noticing, very sorry for that 😅
As I said, I believe he is a disgrace. I stand by that, also fuck the modern concept of borders…
Still the full sentence was “We finally have to start deporting the people which have no [in a legal sense] right to stay at a large scale”, which is bad enough in it’s own right. Its also fucked that a social democrat even starts to participate in this type of inhumane discourse. BUT I think the Spiegel Cover was a bit misleading in the scope of his sentence, as omitting the last part indirectly extends the scope of the demand onto a much larger general scale. (As in deport all the “non germans” “others” or just implicitly “those” with a connotation of that meaning all the people which face racism today. In Germany that would be understood as refugees from North Africa up to Syria, specifically not the white refugees from Ukraine, Iranian Doctors, IT specialists from Israel etc.) So although I think that Olaf is a disgrace, I think that this cover from Spiegel puts him into one league with Geerd Wilders or Bernd/Björn Höcke. And that is simply not the same league.
Also the number of people Olaf is talking about is around 19.000 People (migrants whose refugee-seeking process is finalized, denied and who actually legally have to leave as they are for example not with children who are allowed stay or falling under other exceptions.) To willingly enter this discourse, letting it shift so far to the right, about such a non issue is wild to me. 19.000 people are nothing at the scale of Germany as a whole nor in the context of the scale of migration to Germany.
And yes the new migration laws of the EU are inhumane, and I do not like that the German government voted in favor in the EU. But to say that this is the most relevant context for such a Cover is not enough for me, as I believe that nuance is important in political discourse if we want to keep that discourse active and not end up in culture war type polarised discussion which in the end is not helping finding together as a society. And this culture war shit is coming to Germany way to fucking fast! (Granted mostly because of CxU, AfD and all the other right-wing shitheads)
Thanks for sharing your differentiated opinion, I appreciate it. Sadly my usually pretty short attention span does not allow me to go into such detail myself, except when a topic triggers me in a certain way causing a flow state, which is most of the time not the case with german domestic politics.
Actually I just kinda smashed my keyboard in a flash game when I was 12 and stocked with it ever since😂😂😂
The _germany was added when I got Minecraft at 13 and the username was obviously taken
“We finally have to deport on a large scale”
FTFY
In my opinion the most relevant context is that the SPD voted in favor of the new inhumane EU policy of rejecting even fugitive children at EU borders.
Thanks for fixing, indeed my autocorrect kicked w/o me noticing, very sorry for that 😅
As I said, I believe he is a disgrace. I stand by that, also fuck the modern concept of borders…
Still the full sentence was “We finally have to start deporting the people which have no [in a legal sense] right to stay at a large scale”, which is bad enough in it’s own right. Its also fucked that a social democrat even starts to participate in this type of inhumane discourse. BUT I think the Spiegel Cover was a bit misleading in the scope of his sentence, as omitting the last part indirectly extends the scope of the demand onto a much larger general scale. (As in deport all the “non germans” “others” or just implicitly “those” with a connotation of that meaning all the people which face racism today. In Germany that would be understood as refugees from North Africa up to Syria, specifically not the white refugees from Ukraine, Iranian Doctors, IT specialists from Israel etc.) So although I think that Olaf is a disgrace, I think that this cover from Spiegel puts him into one league with Geerd Wilders or Bernd/Björn Höcke. And that is simply not the same league.
Also the number of people Olaf is talking about is around 19.000 People (migrants whose refugee-seeking process is finalized, denied and who actually legally have to leave as they are for example not with children who are allowed stay or falling under other exceptions.) To willingly enter this discourse, letting it shift so far to the right, about such a non issue is wild to me. 19.000 people are nothing at the scale of Germany as a whole nor in the context of the scale of migration to Germany.
And yes the new migration laws of the EU are inhumane, and I do not like that the German government voted in favor in the EU. But to say that this is the most relevant context for such a Cover is not enough for me, as I believe that nuance is important in political discourse if we want to keep that discourse active and not end up in culture war type polarised discussion which in the end is not helping finding together as a society. And this culture war shit is coming to Germany way to fucking fast! (Granted mostly because of CxU, AfD and all the other right-wing shitheads)
Thanks for sharing your differentiated opinion, I appreciate it. Sadly my usually pretty short attention span does not allow me to go into such detail myself, except when a topic triggers me in a certain way causing a flow state, which is most of the time not the case with german domestic politics.
I get that. I have a kind of toxic relation as I am not really able to ignore it but paying attention drives me mad 🫨
Btw, what is your username referring to, Deutsche Amphibolin-Werke or Digital Audio Workstation? ;)
Actually I just kinda smashed my keyboard in a flash game when I was 12 and stocked with it ever since😂😂😂 The _germany was added when I got Minecraft at 13 and the username was obviously taken
Alright, cool!