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      • glad_cat@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
        3·
        1 year ago

        I tried to watch the subtitles but it’s very confusing. “Women teach men about masculinity,” it’s misandry and would be shot down if the subject was reversed. Also why is this man talking about women who should talk about men? Where are the women?

        • spaduf@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOPEnglish
          5·
          1 year ago

          Apologies if the subtitles are not well formatted so as not to be accessible. To be clear, the video is about contextualizing modern masculinity with ideas from pre-women’s liberation women. Primarily a video on historical context and how it relates to current manosphere influencers.

        • urshanabi@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          I watched the whole video after reading your comment, I have to say I disagree. There isn’t really any hatred of men in this video, more of a description through a historical context which I found novel and inviting of questions. Could you clarify where you think the hatred of men would come from?

          He mentions people who sell masculinity at the moment literally sell goods as a way for individuals to engage in their masculinity. It’s contrasted with men who would take action as a direct form of support as opposed to becoming a consumer to what is essentially sophistry. This isn’t unique towards men, I would argue this is common across different groups with which people readily identify. It provides a facile basis for what it means to be a man, but nothing which can exist independent of the seller-consumer dynamic.

  • urshanabi@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
    1·
    1 year ago

    I was a bit skeptical of this, not due to what the content might be but more so the rhetoric or the length (referring to 30+ min video essays which are not too structured…)

    I was pleasantly surprised, and had not considered looking at the issue from the context of pre-liberation women. I recommend this to anyone who wants a more nuanced understanding of masculinity especially one that isn’t strictly prescriptive like what you might see generally online.

    I feel like a bunch of these types of videos tend to rely on feminist theory and philosophy, of which I am a huge proponent, but I think is a bit difficult to sell in a video format. Something shorter and focused like this video is much appreciated.