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  • Person A: The Police and prisons should be abolished.

    This isn’t a “point” it’s just an empty statement devoid of any reason or logic.

    Person B: “If you’re making wild suggestions, you should probably care about the effects it will have”

    This is a person making an implication. They never define what ‘the effects’ are, they simply hanging an implication.

    It’s pretty damned obvious what will happen if you abolish all enforcement of the law, people will engage in more crime because there will be little to no consequences for said crime. This is basic reasoning that doesn’t require fantastical leaps of the imagination to figure out like Person A’s statement does. We can use history as our guide for this as this has happened numerous times in places where the government has collapsed. Places like Somolia where roving gangs controlled local territories with lots of blood and violence. What historical reference can you give where all laws were abolished and something good happened?

    This is a shitty conversational tactic where the person never has to take a position that can be argued against but can appear, to the ignorant, as if they are actually saying something cynical and intelligent.

    This sound like a description of Person A’s statement to me.

    I love how you can write a book length comment on all the reasons why it’s wrong to argue against you and the OP but have yet to give a single actual argument for why your position makes any sense or will improve anything for anyone but criminals. You can’t even describe basic concepts like how any of this would work. Even OP stated “I don’t care what happens next” meaning they’ve given their “point” zero thought or consideration. You two are absolutely ridiculous.


  • Not a big shocker as our Democratic leaders did everything in their power to make M110 a failure and never distributed any of the funds to implement it while working with police to ensure that addiction became as visible and problematic as possible by refusing to enforce the laws against public drug use. Now they overturned the will of the people and are funneling all those hundreds of millions to police.

    This is no different than all those red states who legalized marijuana and abortion and had their Republican leaders refuse to implement those laws. They’re two sides of the same coin. Both parties are working against the public’s interest.







  • You were voting for fascism with either one of these candidates. The Dems lost because they’re just watered down MAGA at this point, which appeals to no one. They ran yet another shit campaign with a shitty candidate and got Trump elected again, almost as if that was their intent all along, but maybe it’s because Harris didn’t parade around with the Cheneys enough.

    You can’t even make a defense for the Dems here other than “they’re not Republicans,” so maybe you should point that anger toward the very people running the party and making the decisions that make them less appealing than an elderly reality TV host and not at the people who are sick of their shit.