1. Liberals who see themselves as progressive and are disillusioned with the democrats and the liberal media apparatus.

2. I want them to be confronted by the contradictions of the morals they project and the party they support. If they are presented with this information in such a way that by continuing to support the democrats they must start to see and accept themselves as a bloodthirsty racist, imperialist, bootlicker, etc. Since I believe perceived moral superiority is what they cling to, we need to chip away at their self-image so they are confronted with the reality of the ideology they support. This is what I need help with, because in my own interactions I am too intense and fire off facts, I see people shut down. Trump is just toooo scarrrry to recognize that the democrats are actually evil and sick people. Essentially an appeal to emotions, but leading them to this conclusion for themselves via facts about the horrors of liberal capitalism.

3. I didn’t think this far, and again looking to brainstorm so I appreciate these thoughts. Thank you.

People would try to talk to me about the election, and I would talk about how crazy it is that Kamala is comitting a genocide and campaigning with the Cheneys, Clintons and begging for GWB to endorse her. Seeing how it fried peoples brains when I started to list of statistics about how many countries they destroyed and civilians they killed and immediately default to yeah but Trump is worse. Then follow it up with why are you okay with killing so many Arabs?

But womens reproductive rights, okay how do Democrats plan on getting those? Biden could declare a national emergency and open clinics right now but he wouldn’t because he’s a conservative catholic.

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It actually still amazes me every time I am like a goldfish. Just so fucking blatant this time like they just have a blinking billboard above their heads saying “we are genocidal freaks and we hate you please give us money please please please”. An absolute show of the trauma bond they have with white liberals.

The fact that liberals can still feel they have a moral high ground is incredible to me. Just insane levels of contradiction.

Like legitimately, even Obama was probably more deadly and bloodthirsty than Trump across the globe. Dick Cheney, HRC, and it’s not even a contest. I am afraid of Trump, but I’m fucking terrified of the Clintons, the Bushes and the Cheneys. Trump simply doesn’t have the connections those ghouls have that has allowed them to destroy entire countries and kill millions of civilians.

This is why I’ve never given any thought to the harm reduction argument of voting for Dems. They HAVE caused more harm already.

EDIT: This stems from the frustration of talking to people irl, not online, about these contradictions. If you are going to say “we believe in facts” then let’s look at the numbers. They plug their ears, they don’t want to hear the real horrors or liberalism.

They are going to learn their lesson and start lying during campaigns again. They will run a clinton type “progressive” democrat who will say the words that liberals can shout at us. Then if they get into office they will do what they always have.

I need to start keeping my mouth shut. I upset my mom today talking shit about the dems and it made me feel really bad.

By the numbers, objectively, Dronebama, Killery, Sleepy Joe and Kambabla have individually caused death and mass human suffering on a wider scale than Trump did in his 4 years in office. Oh yeah and Dick Cheney holy fuck. But Joe Rogan endorses Bernie and we lose our fucking minds lol.

I’m so fucking tired of hearing liberals I know freak out over Trump as if the dems are not also terrifying demons. Someone started in on some Russia-gate shit and I’m just asking so Russia got Trump elected by posting on facebook. Not because the dems ran a demon lady war criminal?

Absolute mad lad. You, sir, have won the internet for thee day

Shrek 2

I want to go to space but only astral projection as a ball of energy or taken on board by a benevolent and highly spiritually advanced race of squid, a second date please miss Rodrigo.

I voted for Stein because I want to add to the liberal meltdown over her popular vote count if Kamala loses.

0 chance the green party will ever wield power, but if they pass 5%, get federal funding and subsequently on the ballot in every state then we have a 3rd party that is at least anti-genocide.

No I don’t believe there is any strategy that will move the US government left in time, but we are here and talking about this shit so that’s my “tactical” vote. Green party is the compromise I guess.

I try to do most things Brace Beldon tells me to do

Walz was the tinyman tank-man

I wasn’t A Ware of this. I only listened to a couple of things and voted Stein just because of the 5% thing. If Claudia was on the ballot in my state I would have filled in that bubble, I basically gave it very little thought or effort.

Yeah I agree with everything youve said which is why at this point in my life I am not very well traveled and haven’t considered leaving. Side note, my partner learned English and their advanced degree and career so it’s a bit different, but I will certainly make the effort if plans solidify. I will make the effort anyway but it would be motivating if I knew I was going to be there long term. I have some trade skills but my most useful contribution is living frugally and not causing trouble.

I think it became a lot more probable since she got her first medical bill from a minor injury, while having insurance, $900. Paying $1500 a month for an apartment with college students yelling next door and a homeless encampment in the woods next to the building, management doesn’t fit anything when it breaks. Spending $100 for two people for curry and icecream. Needing to own a car to do anything.

Just watched some videos about it, sounds extremely culturally diverse.

It feels like that might be where things are heading. I do much better in the colder climates though, and it’s only getting hotter, but I might get some psychic relief even if I’m sticky and pouring sweat and have a constant headache lol.

Most people who say this can’t go a day without talking to at least 3 people lol. But yeah, I feel ya. It would be rough for the first few months since I am basically addicted to being online at this point.

Is there no search function on this website anymore?