Go and make the same whataboutisms to call out China, Iran, Russia. You don’t do that. It’s you who is making excuses, not others.

If you don’t bring up new arguments, I end this discussion.

I am among the -supposedly most- here on Lemmy who don’t defend UAE and any other crimes.

Comments like yours always work in one direction here on Lemmy: defending China, or at least distracting from the Chinese government’s crimes by just shouting out “Gaza” or “Israel” or “UAE” or anything like that.

It never goes the other way, though. There are many posts here calling out Israel and the US and the UAE, for example (and you are free to post on your own, btw), but there you don’t see such comments saying, "But China’s genocide … "

What you are doing is widespread here in the Lemmyverse. It’s some sort of “the West bad, China bad okay” stance. I call this whataboutism. It shows your hypocrisy.

Call it whatever you want, but these kinds of comments always work in one direction: defending China, or at least distracting from the Chinese government’s crimes by just shouting out “Gaza” or “Israel” or “UAE” or anything that.

It never goes the other way, though. There are many posts here calling out Israel and the US, for example, but there you don’t see such comments saying, "But China’s genocide … "

What you are doing is widespread here in the Lemmyverse. It’s some sort of “the West bad, China bad okay” stance. I call this whataboutism. It shows your hypocrisy.

@mrdown@lemmy.world

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What an absurdly weird whataboutism. As if one crime would justify another.

That‘s never the case, fortunately!

Gabriel Boric is also citing his press advisor Nicole Vergara: “The people I distrust most are those who never doubt.”

Yes, exports is China’s last lifeline for now. It’s economy has been highly dependent on foreign markets, and this might continue as an analysis based on newly released data by China’s Statistics Office, but the researchers look a bit closer. They conclude that China’s “New” Strategic Industries Will Not Produce 5% GDP Growth – (here is an archived link):

• China’s high-technology industries will not generate investment sufficient to power 5% GDP growth in the years ahead
• The reason is that the country’s technology sector is too small relative to the property and infrastructure investment that are in sharp decline
• China will become even more dependent upon gaining market share in export markets, in both new and traditional industries
• China’s past economic performance has clearly been overstated, particularly since the decline of the property sector starting in 2022

It’s time for the Europe, Canada, Australia et al to diversify away a bit faster from Chinese supply chains and their ChEaP pRoDuCtS mAdE bY sLaVe LaBoUr. These diversification is already under way, and the long-term outlook isn’t too good for China as domestic markets are down, consumer confidence is sharply down since the start of the pandemic.

Yes, exports is China’s last lifeline for now. It’s economy has been highly dependent on foreign markets, and this might continue as an analysis based on newly released data by China’s Statistics Office, but the researchers look a bit closer. They conclude that China’s “New” Strategic Industries Will Not Produce 5% GDP Growth – (here is an archived link):

• China’s high-technology industries will not generate investment sufficient to power 5% GDP growth in the years ahead
• The reason is that the country’s technology sector is too small relative to the property and infrastructure investment that are in sharp decline
• China will become even more dependent upon gaining market share in export markets, in both new and traditional industries
• China’s past economic performance has clearly been overstated, particularly since the decline of the property sector starting in 2022

It’s time for the Europe, Canada, Australia et al to diversify away a bit faster from Chinese supply chains and their ChEaP pRoDuCtS mAdE bY sLaVe LaBoUr. These diversification is already under way, and the long-term outlook isn’t too good for China as domestic markets are down, consumer confidence is sharply down since the start of the pandemic.

Yes, exports is China’s last lifeline for now. It’s economy has been highly dependent on foreign markets, and this might continue as an analysis based on newly released data by China’s Statistics Office, but the researchers look a bit closer. They conclude that China’s “New” Strategic Industries Will Not Produce 5% GDP Growth – (here is an archived link):

• China’s high-technology industries will not generate investment sufficient to power 5% GDP growth in the years ahead
• The reason is that the country’s technology sector is too small relative to the property and infrastructure investment that are in sharp decline
• China will become even more dependent upon gaining market share in export markets, in both new and traditional industries
• China’s past economic performance has clearly been overstated, particularly since the decline of the property sector starting in 2022

It’s time for the Europe, Canada, Australia et al to diversify away a bit faster from Chinese supply chains and their ChEaP pRoDuCtS mAdE bY sLaVe LaBoUr. These diversification is already under way, and the long-term outlook isn’t too good for China as domestic markets are down, consumer confidence is sharply down since the start of the pandemic.

This is a report published by a bank with considerable business in China that uses official data and Chinese Communist Party narratives.

There is an analysis based on newly released data by China’s Statistics Office, but the researchers look a bit closer. They conclude that China’s “New” Strategic Industries Will Not Produce 5% GDP Growth – (here is an archived link):

• China’s high-technology industries will not generate investment sufficient to power 5% GDP growth in the years ahead
• The reason is that the country’s technology sector is too small relative to the property and infrastructure investment that are in sharp decline
• China will become even more dependent upon gaining market share in export markets, in both new and traditional industries
• China’s past economic performance has clearly been overstated, particularly since the decline of the property sector starting in 2022

[Edit typo.]

This is a report published by a bank with considerable business in China that uses official data and Chinese Communist Party narratives.

There is an analysis based on newly released data by China’s Statistics Office, but the researchers look a bit closer. They conclude that China’s “New” Strategic Industries Will Not Produce 5% GDP Growth – (here is an archived link):

• China’s high-technology industries will not generate investment sufficient to power 5% GDP growth in the years ahead
• The reason is that the country’s technology sector is too small relative to the property and infrastructure investment that are in sharp decline
• China will become even more dependent upon gaining market share in export markets, in both new and traditional industries
• China’s past economic performance has clearly been overstated, particularly since the decline of the property sector starting in 2022

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Yeah, I didn’t understand it that way. Just wanted to add some more information. Sorry for the confusion.

@fishos@lemmy.world

Your comment misses a lot of points. The catastrophic consequences for are seen, and they were foreseeable. It’s just that the dictatorial government didn’t listen to researchers. As you say that “ideally you’d have a 2 child policy to actually replace parents 1:1 with kids”: No, ideally, you have no ‘child policy’. It’s not a government’s role to say how many kids everyone should have.

I wrote in another threat that China’s one-child policy has many issue caused by the government, and there are many consequences unique to this Chinese policy and that the article doesn’t contain, such as unrecognised children in China’s post one-child policy landscape:

… Although gender may seem to be a less obvious element of China’s one-child policy, it was a crucial component. Not only did this cultural gender preference cause a large demographic imbalance between boys and girls, but it also led to phenomena like mass adoptions and even infanticides of baby girls. The government has also occasionally contributed to unethical and extreme measures by carrying out forced abortions and sterilisations in order to make families comply with the policy …

The one-child policy, which reigned in the country for more than 30 years, has also resulted in the development of an entire generation of children—who are now also adults —that do not appear in Chinese state records. People who fall into this group are popularly called “Heihaizi“, China’s “black children” who could not obtain a hukou— an official household registration. Such children were primarily second-born or later children who, upon birth, had no recognized right to exist due to this family planning policy …

Even in the case that families would want to regularize their Heihaizi’s administrative status and obtain a hukou registration, the cost to do so is often too prohibitive for them. This aspect has additionally highlighted economic and social disparities, as wealthier and more affluent families have been able to circumvent the norm by paying the fee for a hukou.

Not registered Heihaizi, therefore, end up being forced to stay away from society and even public spaces, spending most of their time confined to exclusively familiar spaces …

This is devastating and absolutely incomparable in its cruelty to any other country afaik.

@nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com

China’s one-child policy has many issue caused by the government, and there are many consequences unique to this Chinese policy and that the article doesn’t contain, such as unrecognised children in China’s post one-child policy landscape:

… Although gender may seem to be a less obvious element of China’s one-child policy, it was a crucial component. Not only did this cultural gender preference cause a large demographic imbalance between boys and girls, but it also led to phenomena like mass adoptions and even infanticides of baby girls. The government has also occasionally contributed to unethical and extreme measures by carrying out forced abortions and sterilisations in order to make families comply with the policy …

The one-child policy, which reigned in the country for more than 30 years, has also resulted in the development of an entire generation of children—who are now also adults —that do not appear in Chinese state records. People who fall into this group are popularly called “Heihaizi“, China’s “black children” who could not obtain a hukou— an official household registration. Such children were primarily second-born or later children who, upon birth, had no recognized right to exist due to this family planning policy …

Even in the case that families would want to regularize their Heihaizi’s administrative status and obtain a hukou registration, the cost to do so is often too prohibitive for them. This aspect has additionally highlighted economic and social disparities, as wealthier and more affluent families have been able to circumvent the norm by paying the fee for a hukou.

Not registered Heihaizi, therefore, end up being forced to stay away from society and even public spaces, spending most of their time confined to exclusively familiar spaces …

This is devastating and absolutely incomparable in its cruelty to any other country afaik.

China is not worried about the island of Taiwan attacking.

Nah, but Taiwan must be worried of China attacking, dude.

China is not worried about the island of Taiwan attacking.

Nah, but Taiwan must be worried of China attacking, dude.

Yeah, the 95% approval rating is a famous study. Sure, what else would Chinese people express other than approval of their government if and when asked? Everyone who even slightly criticizes the Chinese Communist Party would forcibly disappear.

However, when Chinese citizens are surveyed anonymously, support for party and government plummets.

Chinese citizens who rarely voice open criticism of their government reveal stronger negative views when they can answer questions anonymously, according to a new study published in The China Quarterly.

The study by researchers at the USC Dornsife College of Letters, Arts and Sciences shows an enormous drop in citizen support for the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and government policies when citizens are surveyed using a method that hides their identities and makes them feel more anonymous than a typical survey.

Do you have any evidence about this claim?

What a good trading partner China is, ha?

The world socialist website is still a propaganda medium that supports regimes that are traditionally authoritarian, like China, Russia, North Korea, and Venezuela. Very often, they frame narratives of “US versus China/Russia” which means they may have a very hard time at least in the near future as the US is turning authoritarian, too.

It won’t change the fact that the world socialist website is not a reliable source and should not be trusted, though.

I just made a similar comment in another thread in this comm. It seems OP is posting questionable sources all over the place.