Jabril [none/use name]

Unz Review.

He was even directly questioned about this years ago and said he would look into it and never stopped posting there

No it wasn’t, it was suggested with no evidence or grounding in reality, things required of a refutation to refute anything. You have a metaphysical idea that because people in the imperial core are workers somehow they will fight against the system they benefit from because on the other side of that fight the wealth distribution would benefit them more. This rejects a century of communist theory. You have taken out all context and material analysis of the condition of those workers and done class reductionism. People like myself who have actually been doing labor and tenant organizing in the US for years know this from experience. People have had the opportunity to organize the whole time, we have had labor and tenant unions for a long time. People join them to get more for themselves and when they do they move on. These are essentially charities and non profits in the modern context, not tools of political power. workers in the US won’t be organizing shit until the empire collapses, largely due to it’s own weight and not because of any organizing being done. Communists need to be organizing now in preparation for that collapse, but it won’t be until things are incredibly dire that the average imperial core resident are counted among us. Until then it’s going to be a very small amount of people who actually understand what it means to be a communist and will subscribe to that notion, and even many of those will still be plagued with metaphysical thinking and liberal brain rot

Wealth is one factor but removing the social and cultural context doesn’t do any favors. It isn’t just wealth that indicates someone’s relationship to capital, and in the imperial core even people who make less than a person outside the core have access to certain luxuries and treats and ideological crutches that keep them yoked to imperialism. People are addicted to treats and ideas here that do not plague other places, they have no national identity, they have no relationship with their neighbors and no reason to have them. Of course we can say that all people will benefit from redistribution of wealth, even wealthy people since it will resolve the existential threat they too face from issues like climate change, but it is not enough to explain who will be interested in overthrowing imperialism and why

It really felt like the perfect choice, I stand by it!

Half the people not voting has nothing to do with the material reality that those same people benefit from imperialism and an economic incentive to keep it going. It is a false assumption to say that because they didn’t vote, they must have some revolutionary potential just waiting to be activated. They are part of a global labor aristocracy and will not do anything more than fight for the gains that improve their own lives, which come directly from exploiting other people. Until those benefits are removed through economic collapse and are no longer affordable for the ruling class, the labor aristocracy will continue and they will not go out of their way to end that privilege

Reread what I said and try again

Over half the nation who voted chose for Trump and the other half chose Harris - these people need imperialism and will not give it up until the conditions get so bad due to economic collapse that they aren’t getting the benefits of imperialism anymore

Yeah I’m way passed the point where I would listen to anything either of these men have to say. Hudson posts his work on a Nazi site and Wolff isn’t useful once you’ve read Lenin and realize empowering workers through workplace democracy within capitalism creates a labor aristocracy who gains more from maintaining capitalism than they do from defeating it

I’m not reading the thread but being in favor of communism works in theory, but in practice (lol) all these settlers will actually lose their quality of life if we were to have a revolution since we would have to dismantle imperialism and the benefits it provides. Few westerners are going to accept that, and so they will choose the treat button 9/10 times. Revolution happens in places where they have nothing to lose but their chains, but losing brunch and U2 at the Vegas sphere is not gonna fly

Yes and the senate and house and presidency, if only the were truly pro worker, would be great for labor. It’s almost if we live in a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie and the state is a tool of the ruling class to oppress the working class or something

Again, the NLRB affects 10% of workers, it is already meaningless to the most marginalized and oppressed workers; to nearly every worker. The union itself should be the organizational power, but the NLRB means they the power rests in a government body instead of the workers themself. What power did workers have before the NLRB? Considering it was their power that forced the government to create the NLRB in response, obviously it was a lot. The idea that anyone is rooting for this in hopes of it helping is naive and misguided, the point is that it is happening anyway and contradictions are getting sharper for many reasons, this being one of them. That is happening and we need to incorporate that into our analysis and be prepared to organize with that reality in mind

Okay so the neoliberal union machine run by the US government that represents 10% of workers will be disbanded, and then workers will have to break the law to get what they want? This is bad because we respect the law and think that unions should be yoked by the US government? This is bad because the workers with the largest concessions afforded by the US government will lose those concessions and no longer have an economic incentive to maintain the status quo? Do we not like wildcat strikes? What is your critique here?

Things are accelerating, contradictions are sharpening, the economy is crumbling and fascism is on the rise. Are we not allowed to have an honest analysis of the situation? Is that accelerationism? The treat factory is ending, inshallah, and the treat addled mind along with it. When people awaken from this haze and realize they are gonna have to break the law to survive, maybe they will actually join with the rest of us who have been living this way the whole time. Maybe instead of wishing to protect the institutional systems designed to destroy the labor movement, we should celebrate their downfall and the downfall of all of the institutions that keep the neoliberal fantasy alive. We are entering the best period for revolutionary organizing since the 60’s and, as always, it is because the conditions have gotten bad enough that people will do something that would have been previously too uncomfortable. I did not organize for this to happen, nothing I did or thought accelerated this situation into being, but this has obviously been where we are going for a long time and now we are here.

Labor’s Untold Story does a decent job covering it and the later Taft-Hartley act within the scope of the US labor movement

NLRB was an essential part of the destruction of the working class movements that preceded it. If unions are no longer regulated by the US government, they can exert more pressure in more effective ways.

That tracks, you don’t seem like you read much

What is the point of critique at all? I hear you that you are calling yourself a communist and posting that on your blog, but what is a communist if not someone who is ready ruthlessly criticize and be criticized in turn? First you called me a sectarian for expressing my discomfort with your exclusion of communists in the poster, now you are calling me a wrecker for critiquing you instead of giving my support for your “plan.” My criticism is all the support you will get out if me and if you were sincere about any of this you would at least attempt to engage with it instead of immediately going for ad hominem and otherwise ignoring everything I am saying.

So people with no political development are looking to you for answers and people who are politically developed are critiquing you and so the critics must be wrong (and worse, wreckers) and your conference must be the thing we spend energy organizing around?

You think what has been holding back revolution in the imperial core is people who are politically developed criticizing your half baked idea of a future plan to see about trying to make yet another attempt of a big tent organization (with both populists, and just Indigenous people in general I guess?)

You say it’s not about you as an individual but you are basing your organizing not around the masses, or workers, or an organization, but a blog named after your own name, which I hope and assume is a pseudonym. You say you have a plan, and a questionably popular blog amongst people with no political development, so why can’t people just use whatever time and resources they have to make your plan a reality, maybe this time when we get a bunch of settler anarchists and populists and socialists and Indigenous people in general together, somehow there will spontaneously be a spark that lights a prairie fire; all we’ve been needing is a blog to arise which will call these vague categories of people together into one place so they can join together in solidarity and march as one against our mutual oppressors.

By the very nature of what you are describing, it is not going to happen. You are not going to get the vague movements listed to unify a strategy for collective liberation. If you had done any research and spent any time with people who live and breathe these movements it would be painfully obvious, and if you aren’t even doing the basic groundwork to make something of this magnitude happen, it seems like you are just hoping the people who have done that work will see this and think, “Finally, I’ve spent years working my ass off to build myself up as an organizer and grow meaningful relationships with people in my community for this day when the plan is finally announced, I will step up and give all of these connections and experiences to this stranger and his blog convention to make sure it happens.” I suppose you pretty much said this from the beginning when you put it out there that if anyone knows any influencers or youtubers that they should get them to shout it out. Your strategy is hoping that a random call to action from a virtually unknown person will mobilize people to enact your “plan,” have you ever done any organizing ever? Do you know how hard it is to get people to show up to shit they actually care about? At best you’ll have a convention full of people who are hoping to learn about these topics showing up and being misinformed, lead astray at worst.

I know this feels like I’m just shitting on your party or whatever but it is coming from a place of sincerity and experience, if you really care about this stuff you need to actually do some organizing work and study, that’s it. It’s good and fine to just be early in political development and new to organizing, and if you want to have a blog go for it but if you want to try and initiate the opening scene of The Warriors but for leftists, at least do it through an organization that does actual organizing work in the real world with people who you are accountable to so they can tell you no to your face, and hopefully explain to you that derailing the necessary organizing work that needs to be done for actual survival in order to plan your convention isn’t the best use of organizational resources.

So expressing my discomfort about the intentional exclusion of communists is a sectarian attack? I think that says more than I would need to elaborate on by I will do it anyway

I disagree wholeheartedly, saying anarchists and leftists is redundant but you did that, saying socialists and leftists is redundant and you did that. Often in the imperial core we will see these same types of intentional exclusion of communism, and if you are making it a point to even include “populists” (sus) but exclude communists this seems highly questionable. Me expressing that question being called a sectarian attack out the gate is… interesting.

There are a probably dozen random individuals calling for things like this every year which no meaningful work has been put into. I see on your blog you are telling people to get organized and saying lots of fine things but I don’t think you have any idea what you are trying to do and don’t know why you think you would be able to pull it off.

If there is going to be some big leftist conference that forms out of nothing in a year, why do you think your blog is the catalyst for that?

Have you ever gotten a bunch of anarchists and socialists and communists and populists and Indigenous people together to work on a project before?

Have you ever been a part of a large construction of an organization where these groups are all represented, come to agreement about organizational structure, founded the org, and then operated it successfully from then on out?

Is there some lack of organizing work in your community or with organizations around you they you think trying to get people to focus their limited energy on your unknown event is the best use of everyone’s time?

kind of weird to me that it says leftist populist socialist and anarchist but not communist.

also, random calls from people no one knows to do things are notoriously unsuccessful at doing anything. if you didn’t already do the organizing work required to get people together, why do you think a random call to action is going to work?

Literally no other way democracy can really take hold

Absolutely, I think a bit part of the long term Ukraine strategy is funneling Ukrainian Nazis into US and EU to radicalize and train domestic fascists. They were even on the ground in Hong Kong doing training during the the protests there.