Monk3brain3 [any, he/him]

Still, I will be absolutely flabbergasted if we don’t implement this sometime in the next 15 years

That’s an excuse. They didn’t suffer the Holocaust. We all have ancestors and human history wasn’t pretty.

You’re being ridiculous. I dont like fedoras or care what sam Harris or his racist pos group of new atheists say. Pointing out that people dying under capitalism find hope in religion doesn’t make religion a progressive force. And me pointing out that religion can never be a progressive force is not me condescendingly looking down on these people. In fact I am more aware of the tragedy than you are in that their only hope (as they are genocided in real time on everyones social media feeds) is a complete dead end. And Islam has hurt Muslims far more than anyone else (although it’s clear Christianity is the far more damaging religion) and I can recognize that because guese what I grew up Muslim.

And or a racist. I’m saying he is a racist and an atheist. The two are independent. But his racism finds a good home in Christian fundamentalism as it would.

I’m just trying to clarify what I meant and Ill be honest I have no idea what you’re saying or arguing at this point.

Fair enough. Trash isn’t the best word to use when discussing a sensitive topic.

Dawkins is obviously an atheist but a racist and the religious umbrella of Christian fundamentalism is a comfortable habitat for him.

The new atheists are just a bunch of racists and that piece of shit Dawkins literally calls himself a cultural Christian.

Also in case it isn’t clear the religion most tied in with capitalism is Christianity and the religion that has caused by far the most damage and will continue to do so in the future is Christianity.

I think all this Islamophobic propaganda which is at its core an racist project and not an anti religion project has made people reluctant to see or unaware of the harm other religions cause.

Is religion a progressive force or not? I’m just here to point out it’s not. Dressing up my stance with your imagined motivations is a you problem. And I actually think that religion and capitalism are so tied up together at this point that a post capitalist world will have to come hand in hand with a post religious world.

Gotcha. Anyway I’m probably getting banned so feel free to keep this going

And? So many of the current Israeli are religious fundamentalists. Jews are an ethno religious group and making Israel a country for Jews (literally their law) is both an ethno nationalist and religio nationalist project.

Not American. Not white. I really don’t know what image you’ve cooked up in your head

ACKSHULLY their religion is the sole source of their suffering and how they’re

Your words not mine

Religion is literally used to maintain dominance over people and prevent condition from improving

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What debate lol

Feel free to square that circle and explain how religion and Marxism are able to go hand in hand. Marxism is a material analysis of the world. Religion is not and quite the opposite.

Religion is always trash. No way around that and even as open mind leftists or wannabe leftists we have to recognize that. However the worst elements of religion tend to moderate with development something the Muslim world has been denied by the great Satan

The world got slightly better

The Israeli response has begun

Oh look the dems have zero principles and are ditching one more group of people as though they are expendable.