Reddit loves having a singular figure to make the focus of an overly simplistic epic bacon mythology, and they’ve already run Teddy Roosevelt and Chuck Norris into the ground

Israel

1. I’d like a source on that, the way you phrase it is suspiciously dramatic

2. It absolutely is, since the weakening of NATO and the US empire is a net positive to all socialist projects everywhere on earth. It doesn’t matter who the capitalist hegemon loses a proxy war to, that loss is socialism’s gain.

It is absolutely the Marxist leninist position in countries all over the world to critically support the Russian Federation in this war.

A thousand bucks.

Would you be willing to put money on the outcome of this war?

Ah yes, the sinister Chinese. Even when they’re doing something good, they’re secretly doing something bad

GROK LAND WARRIOR

GROK LAND WARRIOR

I’m impressed by your openness and I hope you have a good day

Probably, but it’s probably also a good sign of impending peace that the Ukranian government is signaling willingness to agree to anything at all.

Evergreen Caitlin Johnstone article

US would be “worst” ally for anybody

Grim as it is, I’ve been thinking about putting some money down while guys like this are still the mainstream opinion

I want evidence. Provide it to convince me.

Don’t forget the 1918 Siberian Invasion! When freedom-loving America teamed up with Imperial Japan and 17 other countries to jump into the Russian civil war…on the side on the king. They don’t teach us that one in school for some reason🤔 No Kings for me, Kings for thee.

For the liberals who hate reading, a fun little bop

What assholes, liberating millions of feudal peasants and modernizing an entire country and eliminating hunger and poverty and spreading literacy and giving women rights and revolutionizing agriculture and medicine and defeating the nazis and inventing space travel and supporting liberation movements around the world. What absolute pricks.

Edit: just saw you lower down being relatively chill

You are excusing it

“It” being something that doesn’t exist

You are, in this thread, are tolerating it

“It” being something that doesn’t exist

you want to focus on this US issue, go for it

Thanks, I will

but that doesn’t mean dismissing another issue,

An issue that doesn’t exist

and as you describe it intentionally watering down the very real problem of both issues.

“Chinese slavery is super real bro, you gotta believe me. No I will not be backing up my jingoist hunch with anything, why do you hate justice?”

Mind you this thread STARTED with a callout of slavery in China, was whataboutismed to include modern American slavery.

This thread started with you lazily repeating a jingoist cliche with no evidence, and me pointing out that our government are both world-historical liars and provably guilty of that exact crime at an unprecedented scale. It’s like saying “this thread started with a callout of Miss Rachel’s cannibalism, and was whataboutismed to include Richard Chase.” Or “This thread started with a callout of Saddam Hussein’s nuclear weapons, and was whataboutismed to include the United States.” This is not a matter of two equally guilty parties, this is a matter of what the world’s biggest propaganda machine says about other countries to justify horrifying acts against them.

I am actually opposed. I vote, organize, boycott, strike, etc against it.

That’s good, but makes it all the more important that you understand the dynamic at play here. Would you casually accuse Venezuela of being a narco state in league with jihadists, as the news here has insanely suggested? Of course not, because you would recognize that that’s a story cooked up to justify American hostility towards Venezuela. “Chinese slavery” is no different. If you’re on the side of the overwhelming masses of humanity, you have to be able to recognize this bullshit when you see it, or else you may find yourself repeating tall tales invented to justify people’s repression by the world capitalist empire.

Its defeatist to just accept evil. Call it out. Its not normal. Its not ok.

Correct, it’s not normal or tolerated in most of the world, including China. The only countries saying it is normal there are the countries who are themselves guilty of it and seeking to muddy the waters by projecting their crimes, like how Israel accuses Hamas of harboring genocidal intent. You need to be more discerning about believing what the countries where slavery is legal and normal say about the countries where it isn’t. Of course the slave states are going to try to tell you that everyone is doing it, that it’s “whataboutism” to focus on their well-documented crimes and not on the crimes they want you to believe, with no evidence, that their rivals are committing. It’s on you to be smarter than that.