I sat in both. I wanted to like the 6. On paper, it’s much closer to the Accord it would replace. But I just didn’t like the interior. It didn’t fit right. It’s within an inch or so, the same exterior size as the Accord. Yet somehow it fealt slightly cramped. The 5 on the other hand is ~12in shorter but feels bigger on the inside. It fit better anyway. Or I fit better.

Also I wondered about the SUV label. It may just be marketing, since as you said SUVs are popular in the US. But the classification on the paperwork was a “5 door hatchback”. Americans conversely seem to hate that word. Not sure it matters much. It clearly follows all the same design and safety rules of a car. Not a “Light Truck”. Which makes sense given it’s very much a mid-size car. The 6 is somehow nearly the same length as my father’s Durango.

In short the Ioniq 6 just isn’t quite right, while the 5 is an exceptionally good car.

The two aren’t mutually exclusive.

Yes. It would save a lot of confusion online if people were more pedantic. One might even call it helping.

No. That’s the point. We have different ideas about what it means to help. I think help is simply doing something (or not doing something) that benefits someone else. You (and others) seem to also give it some additional qualities related to consent, agrement, or support. Since I don’t ascribe any moral judgement to the word and only use its most limited literal meaning, I hope it’s more clear to you how confusing it can be when you infer morality from amoral terms, and try to refrain from doing so in the future. Communication would be much smoother if people were more deliberately literal with their word choice.

It’s a bit like walking through the park every day shouting at people, and not wanting anyone to know who you are. Eventually they’d figure it out.

Since they “helped” the Swiss court by following necessary Swiss law, didn’t they “help” the FBI?

If they didn’t even know the FBI was asking the Swiss courts, one could still say what they they did was “helpful” to the FBI.

That may be a question best answered by looking inward.

I’ve never seen these white men online.
I don’t think we run in the same circles.

You certainly “helped” the terrorists.
I don’t know if you support them. That’s not even the question here.

PiraHxCx said “helped” is a very proactive term. I was asking about the implications of the word helped. Pointing out that it doesn’t necessarily imply anything active. I wasn’t talking about any specific example or event.

Is it proactive? Sometimes doing nothing can be helpful to someone.

Nobody disagrees with what the literal events were. It just seems like some people feel like helping the FBI collect evidence against a suspect is a bad thing, and don’t want to frame Proton that way.

That’s crazy of course. Proton never sold itself as a tool to protect criminals. Nobody want’s them to be that. They need to comply with all legal requests for information. That’s what they’re supposed to do.

If they didn’t they’d be shut down. And the rest of us would loose the reasonable privacy protection we want and they offer. That would be very bad.

Who said Proton did anything wrong?

You say no, then explain exactly how it’s a yes.

Probably.
If the FBI had a proper warrent from a judge, and convinced the Swiss court it’s all good. Then yah, the Swiss ask for the data, Proton will absolutely hand it over. They follow Swiss law. The real content is all encrypted, but the metadata isn’t.

In this case they matched the email address with the guys credit card.

This is the real answer.
I can’t go back to ad driven search.

Interesting. When I looked into how my 5 works. I was read it was as as I described.

I’ve only had it 6 months now. And it only sat parked and unplugged for an extended time, the once at the airport. So I’ve never really tested directly.

That won’t happen while the car is parked. The 12v will just die like I said, and you’ll need a jump start.

When you start the car and activate the high volt battery it will power the 12v system, including charging the 12v battery. But only once you start the car.

That’ll just kill the 12v faster. Won’t change with the range of the high volt battery.

“park it at the airport for several days” kind of charge. EV batteries can lose 1-2%/day

They really shouldn’t. If yours does, something’s wrong. You should take it in.

I specifically left mine in an airport parking lot for a week. The high voltage main battery didn’t loose even 1%.

The basic internal electronics are powered by an old school 12v battery. It should be able to keep the parked car alive for a few weeks at least. Even if the 12v dies, a simple “jump start” from any other car will let you turn it on again and get home. Just like in an ICE car, the 12v battery will charge while you’re driving.

Unless it was some kind of user error. It’s impossible to know with the limited information they’ve given us.

Even if they are being completely honest and truthful, the error message itself is false.