Yes, I am Italian.

People also assume I’m Jewish and argue with me when I tell them I am not. They insist that one of my parents must be Jewish and I’m just in denial or something.

bingo. that’s the fundamental flaw.

sex and sexuality is incredibly complex, subjective, and nuanced. the government can’t even teach kids the basics of math and reading… and thinks it’s somehow going to teaching 11 year olds about sex is going to magically reduce violence… 11 year olds for most of whom sex is a foreign concept and will be until for another 4-6 years of their lives.

it’s political grandstanding really. they are doing this to score points with the public at the expense of school children.

No, the policy/program makes that assumption. Guilty, until proven innocent.

the article says they will be specifically targeted for being ‘misogynists’ but says nothing about what determines that qualification.

And if it’s like any other government education program, it will produce solely negative and crappy results and just be weaponized against students and teachers both, preventing free and educational discussions of these topics and teaching them according to some illiberal and idiotic stereotypical standards the know-nothing government officials have made out of ignorance and blanket determinations of what these things ‘are’.

I’m no in the UK but I’m well aware of how horribly the USA education system deals with these topics, and how all the schools take a HR approach to the topic rather than an educational one. We weren’t even allowed to ask questions about sex or relationships and it was taught from a narrow and ignorant perspective that ignored all the insights of modern science and social science.

no i’m focusing on value judgement crap that assumes boys are all evil unless educated otherwise, and seeks to socially isolate them to ‘re-educate’ them.

this is the type of plan that is likely to backfire, and will probably introduce potential abusers to the tools to become better abusers. The average boy has no knowledge or interest in any of these things. it’s punishing the majority rather than addressing a minority.

also what are the specific criteria that identity a boy as a proto-misogynist? interesting how that isn’t mentioned. nor what ‘healthy relationships’ means. will this program be espousing traditional sexist gender values as ‘healthy’ ones? as if those values were not misogynistic?

Schools should focus on facts. Not political narratives about the evils of pornography necessarily leading to misogyny and sexual assault or that they are all ‘manosphere influenced’ until prove otherwise. that kind of mentality is some witch-hunt bullshit.

Porn is also incredibly diverse its content. Like video games, or comics, it’s treated as if it was this singular mass of crassness and crudeness and could never have any redemptive value. There is a vast difference between sexual assault fetish commercially produced porn and a loving couple who just wants to share tehir passion for sexual pleasure with each other with the world and make a few bucks on onlyfans. And the former is a dying breed.

Onion articles make more sense.

yes, but if you were a unreasonable sex-negative person you would. and most people are unreasonable and have sex-negative views.

it’s also loaded with sexist assumptions that boys are sex offenders by default unless they are ‘corrected’ by society.

yep. nothing makes kids resent you more than being condescending to them or telling them something is horrible and bad and will corrupt them.

this puritanism nonsense makes zero sense. sex education should be about the facts of sex. not value judgements about waht is ‘good’ porn or not. and female students should be included. this notion that ‘women don’t watch porn’ is completely nonsense.

no, it doesn’t.

the issue is economic insecurity, not watching porn.

also, just because stuff is available doesn’t mean anyone/everyone is watching it. you make a boatload of poor and false assumptions.

Part of the problem, that I’ve personally witness, is groups/communities that form male social cohesion get attacked. They are considered wrong and bad for not including women, and therefore they must be evil.

So men are basically damned if they do, and damned if they don’t.

yep. the popular read on male lonliness skips over the detail that a huge chunk of these men are in relationships.

they are just in relationships with people who don’t care about them, and are aware of it. which, for me personally, is far worse than being actually alone.

the cognitive loop goes like this:

If I am not a mass murdered/pedophile/etc, and those are the worst people, and I wish death on them, then I am good.

It’s basically shitty people trying to justify to themselves that they are ‘good’ by their dislike of ‘bad’ people, but taken to an extreme.

It’s also the loop that causes mentally unwell people to justify violence. Because while killing is bad, if they do it to bad people, it must be good.

It’s largely an exercise in ego-inflation and blame-shifting, like the ‘I am shit, but someone else is shittier so I’m not that shitty’ mentality that just entrenches negative behaviors. Further, there is no ‘reason’ to improve your life if the evil rich people stole your life from you, so your justified in wallowing in your misery and fantasy-projecting rather than… taking actionable steps towards improving your life.

right, so if i don’t want to pay off my girlfriends college debt. i hate women?

yeah that’s exactly proving my point. according to you if I don’t want to pay $75K of someone else’s poor choices, and she is a woman… I hate women. if i was gay and dating a man and didn’t want to pay off his debt, does that mean i hate men or a i hate homosexuals?

It can’t be that I just hate entitled deadbeat people or that I want a partner who contributes equally to a relationship.

Which is precisely why people view me as hating women. Because I treat them as equals and expect equality from them.

They dig it up because our society, in america at least, sees women as children and thinks they should not be responsible for the consequences of their actions, nor should they be financially independent from men.

I get it the most from women when I tell them I am not interested in financially supporting a woman and tell them they should pay their own bills rather than be dependent on men for financial solvency. Turns out a lot of people HATE that idea and think if you don’t support women being financially dependent on men as a good life choice, you hate women.

I generally support the idea that men and women should be independent functional adults… and a lot of people see that as misogyny due to their gender bias assumption that men are to be providers/parents to women. And anyone who doesn’t aspire to that type of a relationship is hates women, because the only ‘proper’ way to be a ‘man’ is to have a woman you take responsibility for emotionally and financially.

no. that is gay.

best thing to do is listen to the most upvoted of the 2000 comments you got on /r/relationships

i’ve also been called gay a lot. and yet i have no sexual interest in men. weird how other peoples perceptions of you may be totally incorrect.

it’s almost as if other people’s opinions have no bearing on what we really are.

I don’t really care about my gender.

but everyone else does. It is very annoying. and they never listen to me because their gender assumptions are so visceral and emotional and they love to shove them in my face and get pissed off that I don’t take the ‘compliment’ they are giving me. whenever i ‘open up’ about myself honestly I am met with hostility and rejection for not being ‘a real man’. this could be as simple as talking about how i like to cook, or read, or ride bicycles.

i also don’t relate to the ‘privilege’ of being a straight male. my gender/sexuality has often been used against me to justify abuse and sexual assault, as well as the policing of my opinions, behaviors, and interests. I simple don’t understand why people are so angry at me for me being me and not conforming to some idea they have of ‘people with a penis must be this way or we feel entirely justified at screaming and hitting them until they act that way’. which of course, talking about my abuses… results in more abuse because it is ‘wrong’ for men to talk about abuse, especially at the hands of women. never once has anyone IRL who I was ever open to ever received me positivity about those experiences. oh, and often too about positive things in my life i get the same negative reaction because my gender is not supposed to ‘be happy’ about the things that make me happy.

it’s funny when people go on about ‘male privileged’ as if we are free from all these expectations and fears of abuse that apparently only women supposedly have. Because I’ve had them my entire life and frankly I hate them.

No, because we all know that men not living up to women’s fantasy ideals is their personal failing as men. These boys need to learn that if they aren’t BDSM billionaires they don’t deserve a woman.

And men having fantasy ideals about women, is hateful and bigoted. We can’t have that, and since porn is mostly male sex fantasies it is wrong and bad.

I’ve been called a misogynist a lot. Mostly when I am confronting a woman about her crappy behaviour towards other people or myself. It’s definable a term that is used to avoid accountability, or against anyone who doesn’t agree with benevolent sexism towards women.

not every state has an oil and gas industry to tax.