I’m sorry you saw that stuff on the matrix its not what I stand for

But we are all individually part of a boycott and thats why Michelin tyres exist, if all vegans ignored Michelin tyres and got whatever other tyres then they would probably stop making them, on the contrary if vegans as a bloc only bought Michelin tyres then that would be a strong market signal that Michelin has done a good thing and that other manufacturers should follow

Isn’t this just completely ignoring supply and demand, what about the animal slaughter rates in Germany where there’s loads of vegans. I bet it’s easier to find weird vegan things there like a vegan book binder. I agree that the cultural effect exists that youre talking about thats why I think for example if you have preowned leather products you should replace them as soon as possible to avoid the signalling effect that leather is acceptable. I also think that emailing companies about this is not symbolic as it shows there is a demand, like think about michelin recently saying theyre going to make vegan tyres that was the result of market research, and now theres like an exponential knock on effect where we can say to vegans hey only buy these michelin tyres and before you know it all tyres will be vegan by default

Thats called the radical flank effect: the theory is that 20% of activists do 80% of the effective work and they provide a base for moderate vegans to onboard new vegans from, think of it like a curve where at each step of the way there is the option to go further, this is generally how radicalisation works but here the more effect work is down by the radical flank of veganism the longer and broader the tail of that curve becomes, for example think about how there now exists vegan tyre options from Michelin, that is infinitely better than if there wasn’t, and the fact that major restaurants all provide vegan options, it makes it harder and harder to justify the killing in more and more cirumstances, in your case you went vegetarian but because there is a radicalisation curve at each stage you were probably presented with more opportunities to take it further

Thank you very much I hope to raise awareness and put more pressure on companies

Isn’t buying vegan things a type of action though, otherwise whats the point of veganism as a boycott at all, we know that boycotting animal products has got us this far why not take it as far as practicible

Thank you, I’m not sure if its every Micheliln tyre but they certainly released at least one vegan tyre product youll have to double check!

ok i will try to be considerate

Yeah I put this at the end notes of the post :) I get them too from uk they ship to a few countries

I’m so happy to hear that! (ive never heard of wild cosmetics maybe theyre not in the UK) but yeah I might want to try hosting like zip files we can keep updated in a SimpleX community we can have one room read only where the latest zip files are uploaded and a sister room linked together where anyone can post. SimpleX is important for vegans so we can support eachother in direct action by affording other activists the cover of what is imo the gold standard of private messaging (post quantum encryption and metadata privacy and no unique user ids) even if we don’t take spicy actions ourselves

Yeah some part of me knows that or I wouldnt be using websites at all for fear of the hard drives that sustain it carrying animal flesh in their inks glues and plastics, but I just feel this incredible pressure and the worst part is for 4 years I thought I was divorced from this psycho shit, I thought, yeah I can do more to help others go vegan but as for me: I don’t pay for animal body parts in anything that I buy directly at least, then I think the first one I found out about was ink so I was like ok there seems to be vegan pens and printer ink and vegan hair dye and what not this doesnt seem too hard, but its when I found out that the vegan society doesnt even look at product packaging that it started getting hard. As for like mental strain what would you think of someone who said I needed cheering up so I got a dairy ice cream, like you could just not right. Buying that ice cream is murder

I would love if you pinned this post!

To me this sounds like “Buy that leather jacket if it makes you happy” its just a difference of how much animal flesh is in the product and I’m so sick of doing consequentialist maths to make up for societies psychopathic treatment of animals

Please don’t call animals it, they are someone not something, changing the language around the oppression has a widespread knock on effect to changing people’s negative opinions towards non human animals

I am against that yes, there are more humane ways to protect yourself from insects including mosquito repellant and I think theres like a super high pitched noise they don’t like

No social justice movement has ever been successful by appealing to the sensibilities of the oppressor, I fully support confronting animal abusers to change their behaviour, it worked on me and it worked on the 8 people I’ve directly helped go vegan, I’m 4y vegan btw

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oh I completely missed the end of the sentence you were talking about buying a hairbrush im so dumb

Conversion rate for what kind of prices?

Thank you, I have seen there is little information collated about vegan instruments, this could be one of the only sources on the english internet for this