Retrocomputing hobbyists and collectors.

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They don’t have to set foot on American soil for a boat to take them away though. by the way, I can totally accept the possibility that it’s some kind of ridiculous immigrations or customs issue. But if it is, you can’t really infer it just from this article and I’m a little annoyed by that. it seems like the obvious question to ask.

Why is bringing in a relief crew not an option?

Fun fact the sdf lemmy has an openmw community: https://lemmy.sdf.org/c/openmw

Honestly the whole point of capitalism is that the owners of the business get to decide what their moral responsibility is and if you don’t like that then maybe we should try something else

See you on December 14th, in 380 years.

I didn’t do a good job in my messaging, I was agitated. but really I was just trying to say these things

1. The global banking system represents a far bigger fish to fry, maybe like 100 to 1000 times bigger (it’s quite difficult to assess, but the total wealth held by private banks is frequently estimated to be in the hundreds of trillions of dollars. Compare this to the total value of literally all cryptocurrency)

2. I probably see a dozen posts that are just writing the same criticisms of “cryptocurrency” over and over again without ever actually addressing why people are drawn to it in the first place, for every one post that’s complaining about banks. despite the fact that banks have screwed over orders of magnitude more people than any crypto bro could ever dream of

3. When you don’t actually clearly spell out the problems that drew those people in in the first place, and at the very least empathize with them explicitly, all you do is alienate those people and you don’t actually get them to stop using cryptocurrency

I don’t understand why I wrote that either looking back at your comment. I apologize for it.

as for a common ground: I feel like you’re saying these things because you think that I believe that this person doesn’t feel that way. The truth is I would be surprised if they didn’t feel that way, for all of the reasons you’re saying. I’m literally just saying that nothing they write establishes with 100% certainty how they feel about the global financial system. Like you literally can only conclude that if you’re willing to make assumptions about what it must mean to post this in solarpunk, what it must mean to be critical of billionaires etc.

And you also need to consider that not everyone even understands all of those things. people come here from all sorts of corners of this little fediverse, you need to consider how they’ll perceive this too if you actually want to steer people away from it. Would they be wrong for failing to connect all those dots if they were never exposed to them before?

Thank you for sharing this.

it’s a shame that you can’t share how something makes you feel alienated without people inferring that it must mean you disagree with the essence of what the person is saying. It’s even more of a shame because all of us sharing this feeling of alienation should only service making the messaging better in the future.

OK so you think that anybody who wants people to criticize the global financial system earnestly is doing PR work for cryptocurrency? Seriously? Please tell me I am misunderstanding you.

They don’t have to believe that we’re currently living in such a situation to believe that it would be bad whether crypto put us in it or not. I think you’re making more assumptions about their beliefs than you’re stating, here.

I never said how they felt about the current situation. I literally said I can’t conclude from their words. and you can’t as evidenced by the fact that you’re telling me all of the possibilities right now.

because the ultimate powers over currencies are governments rather than corporations.

And I honestly think this is an extremely naïve thing to believe.

And lastly I’m not gonna engage with literally anything that takes for granted the idea that I support cryptocurrency because it isn’t true, so let me just make it really clear: I do not support cryptocurrency

How do you figure I’m “going to bat” for cryptocurrency?

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Actually if you just take what they’re saying at face value and don’t make any assumptions or inferences about what they must believe, all you can conclude is that they don’t believe that we’re currently under the control of a Tyrell-esque corporation, and that it’s going to be cryptocurrency that gets us there. But personally I think that’s highly naïve and I do think we’re currently living in a global financial system which might as well be controlled by the Tyrell corporation

Excuse me, but they were describing a problem they perceived with cryptocurrency not with the current financial system. And all I’m saying is I’m extremely tired of criticisms of cryptocurrency without a very least acknowledging the problems with the global financial system that drew people to it in the first place, and making it very clear that they are indeed problems that we need to address, and that it’s gonna take a lot more than just complaining.

I’m only responding this to point out that I never said that it was preferable to the current banking system.

I’m a little confused by your response. What gave you the impression that I thought there was anything positive about what the author wrote?

I’m honestly quite bewildered by your comment and I don’t even understand how you can make a single inference about my values based on what I wrote other than I think banks controlling the money supply is actually bad and that we should do something about it and if we don’t like crypto, we should think of a better idea