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  • Mr Coffee was not extremely cheap outside of America, it doesn’t even exist outside of America because the problem it solves was already solved by other companies outside of America.

    I understand that it might have been a great improvement for the American coffee drinkers (I don’t know, I’ve never heard of Mr Coffee until yesterday because I’m not American), but it did nothing to influence “coffee culture everywhere else” as the OP boldly claims, because everywhere else is outside of America!




  • Instead of assuring me, maybe you could enlighten us by telling us what the fuck it is, you’re talking about. Because the American

    modern coffee culture that exists everywhere else now

    does not exist in Europe. At least not outside of Starbucks or maybe McDonalds. The Italians still drink the same espresso from Lavazza or illy as they always did, the German still buy their filter coffee from Jacobs and Tchibo, just like in the 1960s.



  • I just read about the “second wave” for the first time, and allegedly it was Starbucks’ idea to “transform coffee consumption into a social event instead of just consumption of coffee”.

    But I can guarantee you, that that’s a purely American view, as coffee consumption has been a social event long before in the rest of the world. Fika in Sweden was a thing since the 19th century. Sospreso has been a thing in Italy a century before Starbucks copied it. I don’t know since when Kaffe und Kuchen is a thing in Germany, but my Gradma told me how her Grandma used to put out the white table cloth only for the Sunday Koffee. And she was long dead when Starbucks got their Idea of serving pastries with coffee. Austria got their first Kaffeehaus a century before the USA even existed. In Mecca, coffee houses were banned from 1512-1524 as they were too sociable for the imams who feard the politicization of the coffee drinkers.

    And don’t get me started on the “third wave”, a marketing term coined by some hipsters in Los Angeles or New York to sell overpriced “specialty” coffee to other hipsters from San Francisco or Boston.




  • I totally agree with you, especially in the second part where you’re talking about the US being a weird ass country full of wackjobs.

    But that doesn’t mean that we in the other countries aren’t a bunch of wackjobs either. We might not be as totally wack as you are right now, but that’s just a matter of past or future. Just so you know: We already found the worst possible solution, so you don’t have to find it for yourself, you can learn from us and choose another path.



  • Nobody ever came at me for my children’s diet. Which they honestly should, as we eat way to much pasta, but that’s what’s always accepted 😅

    That! Noone ever gets side eyed for taking their kids to McDonald’s, which is the acme of malnutrition. But as soon as you don’t serve meat to your kid every day, you get hassled by strangers. There are 35 million malnourished, mostly meat eating kids in the US, just by looking at the number of overweight children. But somehow the 1‰ of those who are vegan seem to be the issue.

    Btw. I’m also not the OP of this thread, I’m not even vegan myself. But I get annoyed with these militant carnivores that pop up every time someone mentions veganism, just to spread FUD.