Yeah I’m pretty sure with some simple virtual network bridges and routing rules a 4-to-6 converter is plenty possible without touching the actual processes.

I was just expecting it to be something built into chrome, similar to how drivers need to be signed to run in windows, they’d force you to use browsers Signed By Google to be verifiably compliant with the DRM. It seems like the easiest option for them and the most well understood since it’s been used for drivers for so long

Based, if I can, I will edit the original link to use piped

Well at least for Nvidia, vGPU is a fully Enterprise tech for accomplishing splitting a GPU between a host and VMs. It also just so happens to work on all 20> series cards if you patch the driver :}

You can not just pass through, but share any¹ gpu you like using HyperV. Yes it’s Win10Pro, but there are pleeeeenty of ways to get it enabled/installed/supported on Home as well. Though if you have an Nvidia card 20 series or older, and you’re willing to dive into linux as a dual boot, I’d say qemu/virt-manager is a pretty mainstream VM solution, and vGPU is also a good tech for the same purpose.

₁ I’m not actually sure what the limits on hyperv are but it seems fairly robust. Don’t quote me on it lol

Huh, neat. Regardless, I think google will find a way to sell it or they wouldn’t be invested in it so much, but point taken. I just saw a lot of people commenting on other places about how this is hopeless and there’s no way to protest and wanted to give a solid example of how it could be done effectively.

Wait were they seriously looking to implement it at a FIRMWARE level? jesus that’s just stupid.

Specifically to set up a system like the one I’ve finally got. A hypervisor that retains its own display capabilities, while being able to share the full GPU (though only set portions of VRAM) freely and on demand, with a VM. We can shit on Nvidia all we’d like for a lot of stuff, but vGPU works really well, even on cards it isn’t meant to support LOL

Between the discord devs outright refusing to do any kind of sound capture for linux screen sharing for several years, many updates requiring you to manually download and install a fresh tarball instead of being automatically applied like on windows, and refusal to maintain any kind of package on most repositories, I’d say it doesn’t properly support linux. I do like Nobara’s version of it, whatever they’ve done (I haven’t looked much into it but it definitely seems custom to Nobara, or at least Red hat) though.

And speaking purely from personal experience with no real way to verify statistically (so take this with a rather large grain of salt), there are a LOT of CS or CE major types that would love to switch to it, but will be faced with random tools that they need like microchip studio, or some particular CAD software, just not working at all. For those that I’ve talked with at any length, if they could spin up a VM that effectively fully works as if it’s bare metal, including proper display out that matches the monitor, whenever they need those few specific things, they would switch. They may not be many compared to 100% of global internet users, but they could certainly make up for 2%.

That said I mostly agree that devices like the steam deck are where linux is gonna grow, I just think that it would be going faster if more devs were able to daily drive it and care more about it, instead of having to be stuck reliant on Windows

That’s where you’d be wrong! I’m running it on my 1080ti right now. It can be hacked into working on just about any Nvidia card that’s recent enough to want to use it. A bit of a community has ended up growing around a group that makes patches for the official vGPU drivers, along with merge scripts, to give the hypervisor the ability to retain regular function (accelerated display out through the DP/HDMIs), while also fooling the vGPU part of the driver into thinking the random consumer card is supported. Unfortunately locked down on 30 series and newer :(, but it’s still a VERY cool use for a card like the 1080ti that has become VERY cheap

I could go into the conspiratorial 4D chess I’m sure google is playing, but let me ask this instead: Does you bank not have any captchas, anywhere in the flow of accessing/using their website? Cause if they do, I hope you know google is absolutely going to advertise DRM requirements as the best tech for fighting bot traffic. Even if Google wasn’t doing anything like offering cheap training to their standards to influence the future of the cybersecurity space, that would be PLENTY to get a looooot of big corporations, including banks, to use it.

Close, but that’s not what I mean. I mean SEAMLESS sharing, not playing tennis with it. Is it really so poorly known? Should I write up a little introduction to the parts of it that I’m familiar with?

They want to go back to the days of websites requiring internet explorer… just this time with their browser. Even though getting away from that culture is most of the reason people ever switched to chrome. I will say though, just using firefox for everything you can isn’t enough of a protest. If this goes the way Google (Alphabet I guess) wants it to, you bank will require you to use a browser with DRM. You will be forced to use a browser whose source code you can’t verify as secure, to access your bank. And that is where the protest lines need to be drawn. If your bank does that? Send your message. Close the account. Take back your money. Now I’d personally do this for everything possible, but that would be a looooot of time spent getting very little across to companies that don’t care if you visit their site. Taking money from banks though? Yeah it might be a whole process where you gotta request it, verify in person, wait a week to get the cash, and THEN close it, but so what? A couple hours of doing stuff and then a week of business as usual before a couple more hours opening a new bank account. That’s more than worth doing to send a REAL message.

As someone who has FINALLY made the switch to contribute to that (all it took was several whole days of the summer devoted to constructing a Void environment from scratch to host VMs with GPU sharing), I gotta say the SteamDeck must be putting up gooood numbers, cause there’s no way enough people full-time switched.

As it turns out, GVM is still a live project! Not sure why their site is down, seems like just a lot of old documentation links to a site they decided not to use. After asking around the discord it seems like LibVF.IO isn’t a dead project exactly, but the only way to work with up-to-date things is to manually find all the tools it uses and set everything up yourself. The teams working on all of that stuff are a lot more focused on functionality than public guides and documentation.

tldr; The space isn’t dead! Just low-population, and busy making things actually work.

I for one am pretty excited for this stuff to become more accessible, anyone else? I’m trying to wrap my head around the whole setup they envision so I can maybe help contribute, so if anyone is in the space and wants to give a run down on the whole process of getting a vGPU setup and into a VM, that would be a good addition to this thread!