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  • Coming from sh.itjust.works. It seems there is a pattern of some attacks to forcing defederating some lemmy instances. Those threads can be found on both sh.itjust.works and lemmy.world. There are several vocal users dominating those threads (some user even reaches 20+ comments written in the same thread). Those user whose complaining user has total against, and already hostile to the instance they dislike, and interact to the other instances with bad faith, provoking, and insulting those instance. I believe this is some sort of coordinated pattern to break fediverse into echo-chamber.

    IMO, defederation should be used as last resort, because normal user, especially seeking small niches, will be affected the most. In case of beehaw, there are tons of factors that are justifiable. I wish this defederation drama is not become the defining feature on both lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works.

    I believe individual user can block communities and users, plus block instance feature is in the works. I wish the people who starts those threads can just do that.



  • @Alue42@kbin.social I can’t reply to kbin.social users so I will say it here.

    For your information. If sh.itjust.works defederates from exploding-heads, only those users on those communities will be affected.

    Kbin.social won’t. The users there still can see both sides and interacting with both sides regardless sh.itjust.works and exploding-heads defederates or doesn’t. A simple example, kbin.social people can still interact with beehaw.org, right? We here can’t interact with them at all. Some already made another account on another instance.

    So, people on Kbin.social should not having voice on dispute between these two communities because it has no impact on them.

    Why NOT kbin.social that defederates from exploding-heads then? Why MUST sh.itjust.works? Yet I see four or more accounts from kbin.social try to do discuss this thing. Why you guys from kbin.social try to do this?



  • @damon@kbin.social Many common people only joined lemmy for joining niche communities, and agreeing with admin rules.

    New users here won’t know beehaw stuff. Defederating robbed their communication.

    We are all adults, we can block them. I do not participate in exploding-heads, I do not support many of their discussion. But when defederstion stuff comes up, I always think some new, niche users from there who do not know fediverse stuff, want to visit here. They will be the biggest victim.

    Like I said, just block them yourself. Block individual that say nasty stuff. Defederation just hurt common users.

    Also you are also from kbin? Why are you here discussing this instance direction?




  • Isn’t it just better to do it on your own accord?

    If you do not wish they mingle with you, block the community you do dislike. You can even block individual person.

    If you do not want to participate in theirs, just don’t visit them.

    Defederating is extreme, it takes liberties and freedom from other users, and should only be used as last resort.

    EDIT: @eta_aquarid, why you are discussing this instances meta, you are from kbin.social? And then why you blocking me? Is there some sort of brigade going on here?

    EDIT2: So many other unrelated instances’ user come in here. Wow. There are some coordinated attacks to make sh.itjust.works worse huh?

    KBIN.SOCIAL PEOPLE: This https://kbin.social/m/main@sh.itjust.works/t/39264/Hey-could-we-defederate-with-exploding-heads-com#comments means it is HOSTED on sh.itjust.works instance! It is NOT kbin.social post! Even if you can see from your instance!