The actual content of the meeting (the audio, video, screen sharing, chat messages) is encrypted, even though it is processed on computer located in the U.S. So this is a little dishonest to say is outside of the CLOUD Act, because the data is literally subject to the act. But then, it’s encrypted, so that’s not so bad since it’s basically impossible for the gov to make sense of the data even if they do requisition it.

But the real problem is that other data is not encrypted, yet still is handled on U.S infrastructure: everyone’s IP addresses in the meeting (which can be used to guess their location down to the city more or less), when the meeting started, how long it lasted, which address initiated the call, and some other more technical (and less severe) things. As the author points out, U.S prosecutors have won cases in the past using only phone records that show Alice called Bob, without at all needing to know what they talked about. So since the whole point of this is to avoid government troublemaking, leaving this data not only exposed (not much they could technically do there) but worst of all on U.S computers is just such a facepalm move.

Its clear (to me, the author doesn’t comment on this) that they use U.S companies’ computers because these companies have basically the best and easiest-to-use infrastructure for handling heavy duty stuff like video conferencing. As a developer, I get it, it sucks not to be able to use these powerful and convenient tools. But when your products ENTIRE value is that it doesn’t expose your data to the U.S government, building it in such a way that it… Literally does do that, with enough data for prosecution…Seems like blatant dishonesty to me.

Bonus stupid thing: There’s an anonymous call join function where you can call without a Proton account, which they call anonymous because it hides your IP address from the person you’re calling with and which they criticize competitors for not implementing. So this makes it clear that they understand the importance of hiding the callers IP - they’re using it as a point of marketing. But the way this hides your IP is, rather than you and the person you’re calling knowing each other’s IP, both of your IPs are plainly known by Oracle’s computers in Arizona… Which is like…worse, if the thing you’re worried about is governments more than the person whose meeting your joining. And again since that’s the main selling point of the product… Just seems very dishonest and lazy.

There are ways that they could have done this properly, mostly by simply just not using U.S tech companies at all, but that would have been more expensive from a development time standpoint, and maybe for maintenance too. But this is the whole reason for the company’s existence. So to see them cheesing out on it seems to me like they’re thinking their customers aren’t that savvy. Looks bad.

I like Proton and I think a lot of the criticism of them is perfectionist, idealistic, unrealistic, etc. But this time, this is pretty bad. Very disappointing and its hard to see this as anything other than intentional dishonesty by Proton in addition to lazy software architecture. I will be writing in a complaint to them about this.

Ngl I get him and Charlie Kirk mixed up a lot. Like I’ll see Shapiro and be like “dang its crazy he’s dead now. Oh wait”

Brooo classic orbing

Wow happy to know my comments have been reaching people 🙂‍↕️

God I hate YouTube commenters who just worship the YouTuber like they’re some kind of literal deity. Its crazy how so many humans seem to need that kind of figure in their life. And it’s even more annoying how they always comment so solemnly, like you can tell they just want others to see them as such a deep and respectful person, they’re so thirsty for other commenter to signal their own deep respectfulness by thanking them for signaling their deep respectfulness and so on.

This is an annoying comic. It is important to be precise with language. The problem isn’t people who want to be precise with language, like this strawman character, the problem is people who want to muddy discussion by only pretending to seek precision, like Shapiro or Kirk. The kind of people who value precision like this strawman typically would not disagree to begin with but agree on the condition of refining the expression of it, rather than refuse to engage with the point until it is worded correctly. The appearance of refusing to engage with the point is a rhetorical technique, being misunderstood by the artist, used to make the imprecise speaker (probably the artist) understand the importance of precision, hence why this is a strawman.

That, or this comic is actually intended as an endorsement of this behavior depicted, and I’ve totally misread it. But I doubt that. Ironically, the behavior depicted in the comic is pretty much how it should be.

Can’t tell if you’re joking, but to me this line of reasoning (which I’ve also subscribed to in the past) is kind of like saying “what’s the point in choosing to eat this delicious food over this gross food, when by tomorrow I won’t be tasting either of them anyways?”

I try to see my eventual death as a good thing. The impermanence of all things helps make sure that the universe and all its particulars (like humanity) continually have the opportunity to reinvent themselves. It’s like the ultimate failsafe against our world becoming locked into some kind of permanent hellish state. There’s always the moments of instability caused when elements decay and vanish.

Of course its silly to try to pretend like there’s nothing sad or bad about death either. But I can think about it as a hard sacrifice that I’m ultimately happy to make. There are other reasons too but this is the one on my mind today.

Sometimes does for me too, but I think on those days the truth was I was too depressed to do anything anyways. Sometimes its just time for a day of rest. If I find myself feeling that way then I know its time to have a chill day

Remember that I’m going to die

I predict that Cyberpunk 2077 will become this game for me in like 3-5 years

You should have a friend switch them randomly and do 100 or so test listens, then report how often you guess it right. That would be more scientific, and if you had a good success rate would probably be a good basis for future experimentation by more professional teams. I truly encourage you to try this

This comment couldn’t feel more like a moody 16 year old wrote it. It’s youtube comment level bad with the added content of lemmy.world (which only makes it worse). The inability to write “you" without failing, the wording, the “cringe”, the lack of self-awareness… and I’m sure you have absolutely no idea how much of a cringe teen your made yourself look like by writing it.

(Okay I’ve done my part, let’s please make this a copypasta on Lemmy now)

Ehhh I don’t think this is too farfetched. Not all young people talk like this but some sure do. The no disrespect is kinda odd though, but may just be referring to him asking you a question out of the blue.

But yeah I wouldn’t respond just on the basis of I hate people asking if they can ask me a question but not asking the question. Like well you already asked me one question and now I need to wait to hear the second one?

This pic has strong dream energy. Def feels like somewhere I’ve seen in a memory

Of course you’re right. Anyone who calls someone an evil capitalist is in my experience never ever ever someone to call immigrants welfare leeches.

But… I don’t know if that’s Wong’s point. He may be pointing out that as an immigrant, you will either be hated by the conservative half of America or the progressive half of America depending on how successful you are, so you’re damned if you do, damned if you don’t. Yes, to your point, it’s different groups doing the damning. But from the immigrant’s standpoint that doesn’t feel much nicer.

Well, yes, of course I agree

The other commenter has a point. Maybe they’re just wearing what they really want to, idunno. They should wear whatever they want. But the fact that they all ubiquitously have started to address casual in the last couple of years makes me doubt that that’s what they want. On the other hand, I don’t see billionaires as being the type of tasteful people who would care to commission custom clothes or anything artistic that expresses themselves, etc etc.

I always see this comm when browsing new. It’s not my cup of tea, no pun intended, but it’s crazy to me that you can find so much content of this very specific form. Like how do you source this? And why is there so much of it to begin with?