I don’t know why you want me to explain you and your situation. I really don’t see why it would be the same as everyone elses. I’m pulling from stories, other people’s experiences, studies, real world cases, the research I did when I was interested, what mechanics are saying, and so on.

Maybe it’s different where you live but I come from the Midwest and many of the places I’ve been, what family members, neighbors, and friends think think are the same story. I really was hoping for actual substance in this conversation but seeing as it’s becoming cyclical I’m going to move onto more important things and I hope you do too.

I did have one case where someone enjoyed their Tesla, he was a retired firefighter that barely drove and he liked the way it rode. He didn’t know much about it though when I talked to him.

Who’s fuckin who?

Because you thought the benefits out way the downsides. The idea of a bad product is subjective and in my opinion the alternatives are just better for the vast majority of people for now.

It’s will take standardization of parts and the ability for owners and mechanics to work on it, ability for third parties to produce parts, a track record that proves their claimed reliability and longevity, a more competitive market, better battery tech, more infrastructure for charging, more reliable charging and better range during the winter, etc. all that before it’s suitable for more individuals in my opinion.

I still hear plenty of stories involving people trading their EVs in for a gas powerd car either before or after their lease runs up. And I’ve seen actual people in my life considering an EV and getting a hybrid because of this or that. There are just so many reasons it’s impractical for people. It doesn’t make them bad and your not wrong for owning one. They just fit your use case better than most.

Sadly the toy was recalled due to… Pushes glasses up nose “a lethal dose of radiation.”

Thank you! 🙏 I hate it.

You don’t have to justify your purchase to me, just enjoy it. I never criticized anyone for owning a car.

I’m glad you’re having a good experience with your car, I just find there’s a lot of compromise and issues that would make it difficult or near impossible for most people to own one.

Something like plugin hybrids and regular hybrids would just be a better fit for 95% of people and public transportation would solve a lot more problems in the long run. It would definitely solve the ballooning cost of infrastructure maintenance and ever growing traffic as well as being better for small businesses.

You live in the city? I’m just curious, I’ve noticed cities typically move much faster than small towns if at all. I think it’s really cool you have that kind of luxury to be honest.

I live in a small town that tries to be modern but it often results in something like free wifi city wide that doesn’t really work or a walking path that goes from an Indian park to the opposite side of town for some reason. The one charging station was one of those things that didn’t work out but it was neat that they tried.

They are trying to lay optical fiber and trying to convince people to sign up, its super expensive compared to privately owned ISP’s but better than coax I guess.

I mean I live in America, my perspective will be American. I’d argue Americans are typically really into cars and the freedom of the open road. I mean we pretty much made electric cars popular so I don’t get your point.

I don’t know the state of Estonia but I do pay attention to the rest of the world. Most European countries that embrace and properly build out public transportation have happier citizens, livelier public spaces, and healthier business overall.

We can be civil, no need to be combative for no reason. If you like electric cars that’s fine, I like electric cars too but we don’t all live in California.

Most people live in apartments here and the only charger available was closed down because maintenance and upkeep was too much for the community center that installed it.

It pretty much boils down to living in a small town where there are no chargers and if you’re renting especially there is typically no place to plug in. Also issues with not being able to make road trips that don’t have chargers along the way, reduced range in cold weather, and if you need to tow it’s pretty pointless in an EV.

I agree but if you can’t park near an outlet and you have no charging stations in your town it’s pretty impractical to own one. Everywhere I’ve lived so far that’s the case for a lot of individuals. There’s also issues with long trips, reduced range in cold weather, and towing being pretty much pointless in an EV.

I never said we couldn’t but it’s pretty impractical if it’s hard to find a charger. A lot of people don’t live in houses and at least where I live there is one EV charger in my town. That’s one charger not a station, and the town community center shut it down because upkeep was too expensive.

How many of you guys live in a house you own and can install a fast charger or have reserved parking with even an outlet. How many charging stations are available on your routs. How many of those chargers don’t get vandalized and the copper cables cut off with bolt cutters. How many of you guys can afford a typical EV and the cost of charging at a fast charger on your salary.

Most importantly how does it solve the issue of long distance travel, driving in cold weather with reduced range, and towing. If anyone read my post I said EVs are not ready for 95% of people yet.

Electric vehicles a bad product for 95% of people right now. When is America just going to invest in public transportation.

Pouring billions of dollars widening highway widening projects and giving automotive companies a tax break to charge a premium on electric cars has always been idiotic.

Edit: I was never criticizing electric car owners nor do I care if it works for the specific use case of a small group of individuals. I’m glad some people are adopting a new technology for the sake of helping the environment(I don’t care about individuals doing it for clout).

Most people can’t even reasonably afford new cars and have an outlet to park next to at the end of the day so you’re doing good so long as you plan to keep the car for at least 20,000 miles give or take to offset the carbon emissions of manufacturing the battery. Food and shelter is just more important.

Hybrids are a good stop gap until they dramatically improve battery technology and standardize parts. Plus there are plenty of used hybrids around and are just getting cheaper as more get released onto the market. Hybrids often get released at lower prices due to the cost of manufacturing battery packs.

The ability to reliably get to work and the super market shouldn’t be restricted to the ones able to afford and maintain transportation but a basic right of all citizens.

The easier it is for onboarding the better, even if it includes proprietary software. The discovery of free or open source software will come when they start exploring what’s available on Linux and find workflows that suit them.

I like free and open source software but the freedom of choice is what’s really important in the end.

I can’t wait for it to come to arch!

Sometimes longer if there are bugs but yeah.

Yeah, it sucks but you can always work on it. I still struggle with social anxiety but I push myself to mingle with people every chance I get. After a couple years I still get overwhelmed by people and struggle to share when in a big group of people.

There’s always a virtual machine if you need it for work.