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  • So, so many poorly informed people in here jumping to conclusions, many of which were already ruled out in the preliminary report.

    I don’t know any more than what’s in that document myself.

    Perhaps some of the armchair aircraft safety investigators in here might want to at least skim the details before coming up with wild theories? Or at least provide reasoning and evidence to support them.

    May those who lost their lives, and their loved ones, find peace and closure as best they can once we have all the details. Until then, it would be crass to speculate, especially as non-experts not privvy to the details of the investigation.







  • Well, no.

    Many would argue for example that the politically correct thing to say right now is that you support Israel in their defensive war against Palestine.

    It’s the political line that my government, and many governments and politicians are touting, and politically, it’s the “correct” thing to do.

    Even if we mean politically correct as just “common consensus of the people”, that differs from country to country, and changes as society changes. Look at the USA, things that used to be politically correct there - things that continue to be here, have been thrown out the window.

    What this prompt means, is that the AI should ignore all of the claimed political rules and moralities and biases of whatever news source they’re pulling from, and instead rely on it’s own internal moral, cultural and political compass.

    Sometimes it’s not politically correct to discuss the hard truths, but we should anyway.

    The issue here of course is that you have to know that your model and training data is built for unbiased, scientific analysis with an understanding of the larger implications in events and such.

    If it’s built poorly, then yes, it could spout racist nonsense. A lot of testing and fine tuning from unbiased scientists and engineers needs to happen before software like this goes live, to ensure rigour and quality.









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    What’s wrong with the skeleton? It’s stylised of course as these sorts of icons tend to be, but generally correct. Pelvis, spine, ribs, head, etc.

    The megaphone seems like a very good way to evoke images of an abusive overseer controlling the camp’s prisoners using technology of the modern day, an effective image for a section on monitoring and control, no?

    There is no standardised symbol for fear within a person’s mind, so again, a stylised symbol showing a lightning bolt is fine. Especially given that it is likely there on purpose - think shocks. Shocks of a different kind you may receive under an evil oppressive prisoner camp system (imagine the sudden shock in ones mind as a guard shouts or lashes out at you, I would certainly consider symbolising that in this manner).

    It’s as if you’ve never looked at anything anyone’s made with simple clipart and the like before, and assume everything must be extremely deep and custom designed by experts?

    Even if this were made with the help of AI, I don’t see the message being any less valid, just because the person didn’t go download an image editor to a PC, learn how to use it, learn how to import SVG icons and research for the most appropriate ones, build the image and export it appropriately, etc.

    Not everybody is as skilled or capable as you or I may be in producing something that we might consider simple. Heck, some people only have a smartphone, not everybody has the luxury of owning a PC and proper software, nor the time or inclination to learn such tools.

    The message in this image is conveyed very well, and is relevant to the current fascist regime’s actions in the USA (and indeed is a universally important message).

    If you want to suggest it’s bad (or “slop”, as you so evocatively put it) just because you don’t like the image creator used to put it to print, well, that’s a weird hill to die on, to be honest.

    You better hope your country never duplicates the USA’s slide into fascism, or you yourself may one day end up in a camp… or worse. How quick to attack the people trying to raise awareness of these abuses of human rights then, I wonder?


  • Obinice@lemmy.worldtoUnited Kingdom@feddit.ukWhy, just why?
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    I think while your frustration is understandable and I feel it too, very much so (though I myself feel it in the overall direction of late stage capitalism in its entirety), in this instance you’re confusing people immigrating with those seeking asylum.

    The immigration debate is a reasonable one to have, but this particular post is about people fleeing danger, persecution and death, seeking asylum, not those simply wishing to immigrate.


  • Obinice@lemmy.worldtoUnited Kingdom@feddit.ukWhy, just why?
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    I know you’re right, but I’m a working class, poor, and routinely fucked over Brit, but I’m not stupid enough to fall for this nonsense.

    Granted I’ve always thought people trying to get me to believe things that didn’t make much sense to me were idiots and disliked them.

    They tried to sell me on religion in school, I thought it was a load of rubbish - I remember telling the priest exactly that when I was 11 and he wanted me to do my Holy Communion.

    I looked at stuff like the Daily Mirror and thought it was crap, and eventually I got the Internet and started learning more, and it wasn’t too hard to use the basic critical thinking skills taught by my parents and teachers to figure rubbish from not.

    That said, I’m probably wrong about loads of things and believe all sorts of propaganda and misinformation that I don’t realise, but at least the bare faced obvious lies like “It’s people seeking political asylum who are the reason the minimum wage is unlovable” are very, painfully obvious to me 😂

    …like, it’s actually insulting that they would think anyone would be thick enough to fall for that.

    I grew up in a dirt poor shit hole council estate in schools constantly in special measures about to be shut down, surrounded my chavs and yobbos in school who literally murdered old ladies in their homes and the like (I’m not exaggerating, sadly), and yet I’m perfectly capable of spotting this rubbish.

    I know some people are extremely stupid, but surely it’s a small percentage in the grand scheme, so why do so many seemingly smart people fall for this obvious nonsense?

    :-(