Scott M. Stolz

@xigoi The horror!!!

@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA Be careful. Some people might take your dad’s lawyer up on that.

@ZILtoid1991

If you thought Twitter’s nonexistent moderation was bad, then get ready for Meta’s moderation.

To be fair, there is no global moderation on the fediverse. Anyone can start up their own instance with their own rules, or lack thereof. But that is also a plus since you or your server administrator decide how to moderate content, rather than depending on the decisions of some mega company’s moderation team.

@ma1w4re It’s because it works similar to email. When someone posts, it sends out copies of the message to all of the followers. But some don’t arrive, or some people have blocks in place, or something is not configured right. As a result, not all servers get the complete conversation.

But some people are working to fix that so that all of the servers that support threaded conversations can download the complete conversation.

I’ve actually seen some forum software that did not hide the report button in the UI. :-) You didn’t even have to post to the API. You could just fill out the report form and report yourself.

One use case for it is to remove a post that you are not allowed to remove yourself. Some forums don’t let you edit or delete your own posts after 15 minutes, so you don’t change what you originally said.

It would be interesting to see how people would behave if you had both a “Disagree” and a “Low Quality” button. Would it make any difference, or would people who dislike it also hit the low quality button out of spite?

@Microw

What does Hubzilla have that gives them better tools to fight this?

By default, you only see posts from people you follow, and replies to their posts. And by replies, we mean replies to each particular thread.

Unlike Mastodon, all posts and replies are part of a thread (like a forum post or a Facebook-style social media post). Both the administrator and the person who started the thread can delete comments within that thread.

This also means you can unfollow specific conversations (threads) while continuing following someone’s channel.

With Mastodon, people can randomly mention you and you are notified of the post. With Hubzilla, this is turned off by default, although you can turn it on if you want. Spammers can’t spam you by mentioning you.

And then there are the various ways to block channels.

So spammers can’t get into your inbox very easily, and if they do, they are easy to block.

@NoiseColor It is mostly an issue that administrators have to handle, but if they don’t handle it, it starts spilling over into fediverse conversations.

Basically, a bunch of people create fake accounts for the purpose of sending spam or other nefarious purposes.

It takes up server space, and potentially contains illegal content. Basically stuff an admin does not want on their servers.

@Andrew

t’s nothing like 15 minutes, but Lemmy doesn’t federate posts instantly either.

And for Hubzilla, it depends on the outgoing queue. It can range from instant to awhile.

But we can edit and delete our posts, and most major fediverse platforms will comply with our update and delete requests. But as users who understand a bit about decentralized social media, we understand that once it is sent, there is no guarantee that third parties will delete or update it. The average Threads user probably does not understand that yet.

Apparently they either don’t realize that there is a Update mechanism in ActivityPub that allows you to edit your post any time, or this is a temporary measure until they implement it.

@xia From our angle it might be about 72 degrees, but for the guy standing on it, it might feel hotter. :-D

It’s only evil if it is upside down. ;-)