They don’t hate them at all! They just steal their ideas

Definitely not a cop tattoo

Yes! Give me Zelda Tears of the Kingdom 1.1.1 again. For… not item duping reasons

Hey I just wanted to say first of all, this has been great discussion, I really appreciate it. I guess it all goes back to the original purpose of the internet, which was never meant to be turned into some heavily monetized cash cow for a handful of companies. Open source has created some amazing tools, and I’m a big fan of things like GNU and cc licenses. For me, individuals using whatever I write as a tool is no problem at all. But when it comes to a big company that just wants to scrape data for a LLM, that’s not the same.

This is wild thinking, but like say if they wanted to scrape the lemmyverse, ok, but they had to pay so we could maintain servers etc. We’d all benefit.

Human psychology doesn’t have a standard.

Monogamy is just one of a wide range of social arrangements that have existed all throughout human history, and continue to exist.

see: distribution of monogamy

Personally, I’ve been in multiple partner relationships. Are they perfect? No, absolutely not. But neither were some of the monogamous relationships I’ve been in.

I think the comic is a little off too, and I agree with you about how it portrays cheating, but it doesn’t make sense to shit on all forms of relationship that you don’t agree with.

Just to rag on the Bob Ross metaphor, because I absolutely love him, he might not have minded if I followed along with his paintings, but he was absolutely selling some pthalo blue (which is not a bad thing its own right) and what happened to him after he died was absolutely terrible in terms of monetisation without his permission.

I guess this is all sorta tangential to the main thread here, but I think we should start seeing our information in terms of actual value, and even if we choose to contribute to an open platform like this (which I absolutely support) how much is that actually worth.

Kinda like if you work pro bono, it’s still good to keep a record of what your billable amount would have been.

Zuck and co have a vested interest in making us think that what we provide is worthless

It’s also a heck of a lot cheaper than creating a legless zombie universe. Shareholders are probably drooling at the potential of returning to the old sabatoge playbook

Seems like they’re just trying to get their fingers in the pie, it’s what they always do regardless of whether they know it will work or not.

Yeah, I get that, and I don’t think the solution is a walled garden. But I do think it will become more of an issue as these companies get more aggressive about going after any data they can find.

At this point, I really don’t know. But I guess the difference is that here, or possibly other instances at least the users can have a say in it. Posting topics like this helps.

That for me feels way better than just having some company give out the terms and having us accept it whether we like it or not.

I feel like this is all still new enough to where we can shape it in a different direction than “growth at all costs”

The difference is that Reddit was looking to IPO off that data, here that won’t happen. We were the product there.

If you’re ok with your data being used, maybe there’s a way to opt into that. But I would rather it be something data trawlers had to forcibly ask first rather than just stealing it and then saying “oopsies”

Personally I’ll support instances that choose to tell Zuckybags to fuck right off, and I think the fediverse is pretty well set up to be able to do that.

But I guess the bigger question how is how we protect our information, since it seems like everything that happens here is pretty wide open.

The big companies will all come for places like this and trawl for “genuine human input” to feed their AI cashbabies, and what we create has value. Maybe even the shitposts. So how do we protect that?

Passive aggressively dismissive of standard relationships

Whose standard?

This and Chocolate Rain, I guess that’s two times he’s made an impression on my life now

I always thought he would be a great character for games like Strikers, Mario Party, Mario Kart.

Or go all the way and give him the action RPG spinoff he deserves!

Wow, there’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time, I think that just unlocked a core memory for me. While I didn’t use del.icio.us heavily, I did feel like there was something super useful about it. In a way it felt way more web 2.0 than Facebook ever did, a true utility.

It’s an interesting problem, because I do love a good long read, but sometimes sometimes it’s better to not “bury the lede” and just come right out and say the thing.

Aye

Bad analogy, it’s not one planet, this is like Super Mario Galaxy. We have a planet with little bars (communities), they have a planet with their shitty racist bars. It’s not building a wall, it’s cutting them out of our orbit.

I vote defedederation. This is a clear instance of “nip it in the bud”. Additionally, drafting a clear code of what the terms of defedederation will entail in the future will help both users and mods. We’re still new in this whole fediverse learning experience, so it’s understandable that there will be challenges like this, but I personally will feel most comfortable in instances which are willing to take strong stances against bigotry and hate speech.