• EmperorHenry
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    22 days ago

    the first trials for this resulted in men becoming sterile and then killing themselves.

    And then a bunch of female comedians made fun of them for “being a little moody”

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      21 days ago

      The point of the joke is not that they think men are being babies about it. It is that women’s birth control causes these same side effects, along with strokes, and a number of other serious, long term issues. However when women say they do not want to take birth control, and instead opt for doing things that require more responsibility of the man, they are often told similar things concerning the negative effects they get when using it, and they should just deal with it.

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        22 days ago

        birth control for women doesn’t make a woman permanently sterile like the drug trials for male birth control did for men

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          That is actually not true. Not downplaying the significance of these effects, but…

          In the 60s and 70s a large number of planned parenthood clinics were in low-income and predominantly black neighbourhoods, aimed at reducing the number of black babies.

          In the same era birth control (more appropriately termed eugenics) programs forcibly sterilized black and indigenous women. Where it was presented as an option, the consequence for not following through on these doctor’s “recommendations,” were threats to withhold healthcare or public assistance. The statistics through the 60s and 70s were that roughly 1 in 4 indigenous women were non-consenually sterilized.

          But also, yeah, the results of this trial are fucked and people are right to be skeptical of this drug.

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          Maybe not, but female hormonal birth control can cause liver tumors and blood clots. Can’t have more kids if a blood clot kills you.

          The moral of the story should be safer contraceptives for everyone…

          Unfortunately for women they weigh the side effects of hormonal birth control against those of a pregnancy. Since pregnancy also increases the chance of blood clots and other things they just say “good enough!” And put it on the market…which is bullshit. Either way we’re at higher risk of serious health issues.

          That’s why women are angry. I feel confident saying the majority of women dont want unsafe bc for men. We want more research into safer bc options available for us too.

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          22 days ago

          Sorry it’s very rare to cause the least of the issues on that list, must mean they don’t have a point.

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      22 days ago

      Women’s birth control hasn’t exactly been side-effect-free, what with the strokes. But also, sauce?

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      22 days ago

      Did this happen? Or was this a satirical take on something that happened to women?