• EmperorHenry
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    3 months ago

    why is everyone banning everything?

    Stop it! Let people have fun on the internet!

        • BambiDiego@lemmy.world
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          3 months ago

          I mean, you’re being facetious, but no, the law being “your company must have a legal representative to be within our borders”

          X was told about it, given a deadline, they missed the deadline, they can’t be in Brazil

          Actions have consequences

          • ulterno@lemmy.kde.social
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            3 months ago

            your company must have a legal representative to be within our borders

            Interesting. Yeah, I was too lazy to look it up and instead cracked a joke.

            But, isn’t that law kinda expensive? Or does it only apply in certain conditions (like company size or sth)?
            And what’s stopping Musk from just putting an underpaid intern for compliance?

            • BambiDiego@lemmy.world
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              3 months ago

              They require a representative in order to establish a chain of responsibility that deals with crime, censorship, social health (lol), public relations, etc.

              It does come down to a combination of size, influence, services rendered, and other factors.

              He could put a random kid in charge but it would make it worse, like putting a busboy in a chef’s hat during Rush hour.

              • ulterno@lemmy.kde.social
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                3 months ago

                What I find difficult to understand, is that they require said chap to be physically in the country.
                Unless said law only works in case the company has a physical presence in the country (which it does, in this case), I feel it hard to get the logic to apply it to an internet service.

                • BambiDiego@lemmy.world
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                  3 months ago

                  It’s a common thing in many countries. It’s, among other things, a liability issue.

                  If your “country #1” company does business in “country #2” then what laws apply to them?

                  In order to distinguish clear lines what “country #2” requires is a representative for the company to be in the country. If the company breaks “country #2”'s laws then the representative is liable for it.

                  Generally to be a representative you have to have a measurable stake in the transaction, you can’t just be a random Jimbo, so it usually falls to a law firm (or an entity that works with one), mainly because if you need people to help your company follow the law, then they should know the law.

                  If the company breaks the law, the firm has to deal with that, so it’s a risk for them.

                  In this case, X needed that representative, either they couldn’t or wouldn’t find one, therefore Brazil said “we can’t hold you accountable to our laws, so get out of our country.”

                  I’m super, MEGA, oversimplifying, and I’m no expert, but this is my best understanding.

                  • ulterno@lemmy.kde.social
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                    3 months ago

                    Thanks, that definitely made it very simple to understand.

                    Still not 100% convinced on the applicability under various conditions[1], but I understand it from the Government POV. Kinda similar to the country-country hostage exchange we see in stories, which makes sure the other would have a reason not to renege on some agreement, even if they don’t have a reason for mutual trust.


                    1. and if I want to be, perhaps I should stop being lazy and go read the law ↩︎