• PotatoesFall
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    5 hours ago

    what genocide? not defending putin here but we can’t start calling every armed conflict a genocide. but maybe I’m missing some context

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      Russia has taken many thousands of children and are having them adopted and naturalized by Russian families. Preventing Ukrainian from being spoken at schools in occupied territories, targeting cultural sites of no military value etc.

      It’s not as ‘flashy’ or bloody of a genocide as some others, but it fits the description.

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        4 hours ago

        Wow that’s disgusting. I’d call it ethnic cleansing

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      !Disclaimer: Don’t quote me, I’m months behind on news/statistics.!<

      Crimea, Donbas and the current conflict tally up around 1.2M casualties, on the low end. Estimates are really hard during any war, but most experts would agree they are always lower than the real amount. As for civilian deaths, it’s in the 30-40k range. Even more are missing.

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      If we take what Putin says he wants to do at face value, it’s at least an attempt of doing the modern definition of genocide. Like if we call Gaza a genocide, then clearly the parts of Ukraine that fell to Russia are experiencing something similar.

      Personally I think the word genocide has been diluted and neither of those wars constitute a genocide, at least in the current stage. Many other kinds of criminal and evil though, sure.