• albert180
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    5 days ago

    Somehow No One needs that much Holding Hand or “Security” on the Computer, where No revenue streams of Google/Apple are affected

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      I’ve been the person people came to (and paid money to) when they installed something stupid on Windows XP in 2003. Quite a few people do need their hand held to use a computer effectively.

      Until that era, app developers were generally considered trustworthy. Malware existed, but anything that openly advertised itself, that users would install intentionally was unlikely to work against their interests. “Spyware” was a new category. App permissions in smartphones represent a recognition that app developers do not necessarily share the users’ interests.

      I certainly don’t want knowledgeable users locked out of making decisions for themselves (even bad ones), but arranging the UI so that someone with a limited understanding will have a hard time finding the dangerous settings isn’t a bad thing.

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      You have a very distorted view of security. The Apple computer ecosystem closely mirrors their phone and tablet system.

      Microsoft Windows is an absolute shitshow and continues to get worse at every iteration.

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        I can Install on a Mac without any Roadblocks another Operating System, and I can Install Apps without the need for a Developer Account or a certificate unrestricted.

        Otherwise I’m using GNU/Linux which also doesn’t try to “protect” me in the interest of some Corporation

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          Actually, no you cannot. You need to adjust and grant permissions for anything you install on a Mac OS system today.

          Source: I own a Mac, it’s less than six months old. Installing stuff is full of permission requests.

          As for Linux, I’ve used and installed it for over 25 years. It’s not ready for 3 billion home users and at the rate it’s going, it won’t ever get there.

          Yes, I know, Android is Linux, well done, here’s an elephant stamp.

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            I’ve also been using Linux for a similar amount of time, and it’s only at work now I have to use Windows.

            And as for home users using Linux? I have a few family members quite happy with Ubuntu / Firefox since all they need is a browser and VLC for their “PC”, so I don’t know where you got that “it’ll never get there” metric from.

            Alright they don’t have a clue how Jellyfin works on that box, but they sure do appreciate and use it a lot these days now they’ve got used to it / dumping Netflix.

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            5 days ago

            Of course you can Install Asahi Linux on a modern Mac, and you can Sideload Apps too. Both Things which are Not possible on iOS without Major Roadblocks