• vrighter
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    5 days ago

    we expect everyone to take the time to learn how to use anything else. We just use the same expectations for tech stuff.

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      That’s not at all true. We no longer expect drivers to change sparkplugs (or batteries), even checking oil levels is beyond most, let alone using a manual gearbox or disabling airbags.

      You have to understand that the fact that you’re here in this community participating in this discussion already puts you in a very small subset of humanity with technology skills not in evidence in the general public.

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        5 days ago

        how to use their stuff. We don’t expect them to know what’s under the hood. But we do expect them to have knowledge of the rules of the road, what the traffic signs mean, the fact that driving at high speed into a wall is not desirable etc. Simple everyday stuff required to be able to use, not maintain, a car.

        “read the stuff on screen and at least try to understand it” is the barest minimum. But we don’t even expect that of anyone anymore. Or even something as simple as if you see a red flashing sign saying “IF YOU DO THIS YOU WILL BE IN DANGER!”, at least try having a 2nd look

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          I’ve been writing software for a very long time. Users are essentially stupid and lazy. They don’t read what’s on a screen, even if it’s the only thing on the screen, even if you don’t give them any other options than clicking “Ok”.

          When I say stupid, it’s not that they’re dumb, it’s that their mental model of the world doesn’t match the computer one, saying things like: “well, that’s stupid, it should be like this”, followed by a completely illogical and unimplementable world view of the problem they think is being solved.

          For the majority of humanity, computers are magic and no amount of arguing here is going to change this in our lifetime. It’s why AI is welcomed with open arms and no thought to its reality.

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            4 days ago

            Those “stupid and lazy” users own their phones, not you. They are the admins of their devices, not you. And as admins they should have full control over the security policy, not you.

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              They are the admins of their devices, not you. And as admins they should have full control over the security policy, not you.

              I can’t agree with you there, a few years ago I installed Mint on my mum’s old desktop. It was either that or pay for a new Windows license to “upgrade” to Win10. She doesn’t have admin, doesn’t even know what admin is and would be unwilling to learn if she did know.

              Not all users need to be admins, in fact most don’t want it.

              Me, however, I get pissy if the machine stops me doing what I want to do.