• MachineFab812
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    Lenin’s biggest mistakes were playing nice with the Bolsheviks(and not anarchists), consolidating too much power in his state/party, and basically abandoning democracy/transparency.

    I’m sure there ware a bunch of other stupid things he did, as will happen when no one can stop you or even admit you may be wrong in the moment, but those were the things that really set up the next guy to be able to shit all over anything good he had done.

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      Wasn’t the next guy supposed to be Trotsky but stalin outmaneuvered him and eventually made him flee? The world sound be an interesting place is it had gone the way Lenin intended things.

      This is if I’m remembering correctly

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        I’m one of those crazies who believes that sufficient gun/weapons rights should allow people to expiriment with whatever forms of government they please. That is to say, once someone in power has opted to violate those, I quickly lose interest in their theories, intents, or what-if scenarios versus what they actually managed.

        Maybe that’s intellectually lazy of me, but I’m just being honest. I’m probably not one that you want to have that Lenin conversation with. I believe modern Israel lost the moral high ground vs Hamas and the rest at, basically, conception.

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          Really it’s more of a conversation about Trotsky vs Stalin not Lenin.

          But I’m looking at the USA right now and your theory about guns seems lacking.

          I’m actually annoyed that those in the 2A club are no where to be seen right now

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            Hey, I’m at least as annoyed as you. I think the biggest thing between the US and gas chambers at the moment is a combination of MAGA incompetence and cowardice versus an armed populace, but the more this drags on, the more the “armed populace” part thoughts seem self-serving.

            Personally, I’ve had 11+ years to get over caring about gun rights in whatever country I might move to, and boy howdey, you better believe I’m over it.

    • Skiluros@sh.itjust.works
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      There was also the Red Terror and mass killings, very significant points that set the stage for future mass violence and killing.