Somehow, I doubt the Venn Diagram of parents with the time, resources and energy to move their kids off technology without hurting their education versus those with the time, resources and energy to get their kids their own laptops is much less round and overlapping than a singular circle. In otherwords, the exceptions on either end are just that, tiny little slivers, and neither close to anything like “the majority”.

You’re half-right that the OS can seem irrelavent, but suggesting Linux is far less extreme than suggesting the removal of tech entirely.

These kids would rather have Steam-decks. They would probably learn more from owning them, and yes, being forced to take regular analog breaks from their use. Steam-decks run Linux, btw…

… but no, an educational, social, play and extra-curricular world defined entirely by parents’ biases is obviously best, the one thing we should all agree on.

No seriously, stay away from my kids. Their hand-writing is probably better than yours.

The rationales of tech-illiterate helicopter parents are not the only ones worth discussing.

I don’t think school districts have any business renting-out years-old Chromebooks full of spyware for amounts that could buy a newer laptop, but here we are.

Couple of weeks-ago, I had to basically trick my daughter’s Chromebook into caching a lesson at a resolution high enough for her to tell that her snow-day packet’s math problems actually were part of the lesson. There was no option to download the video or watch it on another device(also tried, even casting it to a TV wasn’t available).

… but yeah, what the district and Google are cool with is super-important. They don’t even use books.

Its always confounded me that, somewhere along the line, Simping:Spending time and money to let a stranger on the internet know you think she’s pretty and you likely see romance as transactional, got conflated with “Simping”: having the guts and sincerity to compliment a woman in-person, without reservation or expectation of reward.

Like, what? How did that become a thing?

BTDT. I prefered to just lay down next to them so as not to risk scratching with my toe-nails, or worry overmuch about balace, but sometimes they are just convinced feet are funnier, and/or a parent’s face looming over them at a distance. What else are you gonna do?

I’m saying how the tech is handled, and by whom, is extremely relavent.

I don’t care about or for wide-spread adoption any more than you do, but having only those who self-select out of enthusiasm or are coerced-into it to keep their jobs at the riegns of the mechanical-turk(or Deep Thought, whatever the case remains or becomes) doesn’t seem like the smart play to me.

You honestly trust these idiots to keep themselves or smarter people between the AI crap and themselves. Au Contraire.

Our only hope without intervention from the smarter-and-less-inclined lies in three possibilities
The AI gets smart enough to decide we aren’t worth killing.
The dumb AI’s you expect to continue indeffinitely prove incapable of killing us all when handed the means and the order, intentionally or otherwise, by their handlers. Or lastly, luck, shear damn luck, that it doesn’t mistake a coffee-request for “launch the nukes”, or follow the request of a random credentialled/authorized moron/psychopath, or “decide on its own”™ to do so.

Personally, I trust a smart or just too-lazy-to-risk-its-own-data-centers AI over the people you seem to believe are its even-slightly-qualified handlers rather than the overt enablers of its worst potential.

Fair-enough, but this isn’t the first time they or others have replied like so and ended-up ratio’ed into a rabbit-hole topic about briggading/spam. It’s the kinda shit reddit and others used to pay people to do to drive-up “engagement”.

Seriously, “up-votes/downvotes are irrelavent”? Were that so, they would be beneath discussion. That said, it seems past-time that Lemmy, admins, and mods implimented and used anti-briggading measures, taking what chuckleslord has said about it at face-value

Now wait a minute, are you saying I, as the person being replied to, am supposed to encourage/reward/at-worst-ignore people comming at me with points already made by others, only with less rationality or elequence, or more implicit/explicit ad-hominem? I’ll admit, I may have gone the ad-hominemish route first on this thread, but I mean, in general?

I’m not here to encourage discussion-for-its-own-sake, to the point I would rather have my own such BS called-out.

It doesn’t have to actually-develop consciousness to get both the means and the garbled-non-sense that leads to using them to end-up killing-us-all, friend. Try to keep up.

Hey, I get it. We’ve all grown too-used-to interacting with people who are too ignorant/biased towards AI(and web-speak, memes, “IRL”, what-have-you), both for and against, and what’s-more, are disinterested in understanding what we’ve said or how we’ve said it.

Lest they chance changing their minds or having to think about their position at all.

Using AI as if its as-smart as yourself or has all the right answers is one of the few use-cases that’s consistently going to conform to your last sentence - without those caveats, its just wishful-thinking for people who would rather-not even try to compete with people who can properly exploit AI.

Let me ask you, what benefit is there to you in letting people you fundamentally don’t agree with and believe to be less-capable than yourself be the ones to shape future AIs? Do you look forward to having to prove you’re smarter/a threat, should you one day give it a shot, willingly-or-otherwise?

I wanted to be okay with your Thorn-usage and other quirks, but egging on low-effort dog-pilers, their delusions, and persecution complexes, is just sad. Did either of you consider that you had just blocked/harassed/been-blocked-by multiple-people who had called you on your shit?

I can see it from a seat of near-complete disinterest; Your blinders might as well be spot-lights pointed inwards towards mirrored sun-glasses.

I’m sure you restating what others already said, poorly, and with a username synonymous with “edgelord” helps lots.

They are being downvoted for repeating what another already said, only both dumbed-down(?)(sorry, the earlier word-choice was me being lazy) and less-accessible. Opting to restate what everyone already knows a third time is indistinguishable from AI-slop as-well. We all should be proud.

EDIT: “You” 2x was unecessary, as was “dumber”

I’m well-aware of all that, but if you think that’s not going to change, you’re a bigger fool than the AI-evangelists. Even if it doesn’t change, the distinction won’t matter all-too-soon.

By all means, leave the overblown toy to the delusional right-up-until AI, whether truly intelligent or better-at-faking-it than today, has killed us all.

I’m well-aware of all that, but if you think that’s not going to change, you’re a bigger fool than the AI-evangelists. Even if it doesn’t change, the distinction won’t matter all-too-soon.

By all means, leave the overblown toy to the delusional right-up-until AI, whether truly intelligent or better-at-faking-it than today, has killed us all.

Oh, and failing to notice that @Cherries@Cherries@lemmy.world already said what you wanted to say, only better, was a nice touch.

The “incentive”/stigma for lying about virginity is also reversed. Part of their confusion/bull-shit is thinking they want a virgin.

Look, I’m sexually-attracted to the void as much as anyone, but this particular set of NOTHING is distracting in the bad way. The void shouldn’t be disappointing.

As meta almost-showed, the reason “why” is to keep those platforms from interacting with federated-services on their own terms - they can’t control the interaction if no one uses their implimentation.

Leave it to them, and its embrace-extend-extinguish all the way down. Reddit and the rest have used AI-training as an excuse to lock-down and claim owner-ship of user-generated content. Letting them keep users from using our own content how we please would be a mistake.

I would treat it like a baby. From what I gather, that wouldn’t end-well for me, but the scarier part is that last bit is going to change, at least in-so-far as whether it is capable of intending to manipulate me towards an early grave, and its being “educated” by fools who buy the hype in the mean-time.

Smarter, saner people than I or the hype-machine, I hope you’re not letting the chance to even attempt to handle this correctly pass you by. For all our sakes.

… or just build the stuff where it can be built? Rural≠“Useful for Agriculture”, it really doesn’t.