• Lifter
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    2 months ago

    Zoom still doesn’t work right on Wayland.

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      2 months ago

      Possibly, yet against their best efforts, their shit works better now, see the end of this comment. But first:

      I’ve ranted about this before, but Zoom is bone-chillingly badly written software. It’s also the only piece of software that I’ve never seen the code of, but will make comments about code quality and development practice with 100% certainty.

      Zoom has broken for me in so many many completely insane and creative ways that the only explanation is that they have nobody keeping things in check and just an army of interns hacking away at things half-assedly until they “work”.

      If there are 3 nice and standard ways to do things that can be easily googled, Zoom does a given thing in 2 more ass-backwards ways that make no sense and are fragile as fuck. E.g. they did screen sharing using GNOME’s screenshot API, at a time when every tutorial told you to use the dedicated cross-DE screencast API. When called out, they switched to a different GNOME API.

      I think at this point they finally fixed it by actually using the API people told them to use years earlier, but who knows what other inane mistakes are still there to prevent things from working.

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        2 months ago

        Hear hear. They can’t keeo up though, with standards changing every 20 years or so…

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      2 months ago

      As someone who uses many of its features for job interviews on a Wayland machine, what doesn’t work?

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        For instance, screen sharing is broken on one of machines. It works once and then leaks the handle. Making it impossible to share again until rebooting.

        It used to crash entirely when exiting sharing and their bugfix was to swallow the exception instead of a proper fix.

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        2 months ago

        Liar. Proof by contradiction: Everything I use works (KDE Plasma).

        • Discord
        • Slack
        • Teams
        • even Zoom, despite being a dogshit pile of hacks
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          Yeh, zoom works on one of my two main machines on wayland…

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          2 months ago

          Meet also works with screen sharing on Wayland, so I’ve no idea what the GP is about tbh

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            Three-day suspension. Come back when you’ve learned to regulate your emotions.

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            You said “no screen sharing software”.

            1. That’s wrong
            2. It’s pretty much impossible that you don’t know that some screen sharing software works on Wayland

            Consequently, that was a lie. Or you suck at expressing yourself and meant something different than what you wrote. But as written, definitely a lie.

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            Well… you just said no software works. They’ve given you counter examples, now you either have to cite examples of software not working with screen sharing or you’re the fool

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              2 months ago
              • teams
              • slack
              • zoom
              • Firefox browser capture for web screen share

              never have I had any of these work for me, I’m not the only one either.

              still doesn’t make me a liar and we can both be right.

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                Then you should have said “for me” or “on my machine”, but instead you said “no screen sharing software works on it” in a context where “it” can only be interpreted as Wayland in general.

                And that’s wrong and you know it.

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            What you said is literally incorrect. There are screen sharing applications that work on Wayland. I just used one ten minutes ago.