I don’t think criminals using scooters is a legitimate reason to ban scooters. Criminals use cars even more, they are much more effective for crimes. That can’t be the real reason. What is the real reason? Just they want to pick on them? Maybe the car drivers hate them all like they do bicyclists in many cities, fume of them jamming them up, not having to follow the same traffic laws. That is it I bet. This is a bad faith persecution of laws against car owners road rage targets.
I don’t agree with the ban, but you’re a bit naive in your thinking on how easy crimes can be in a crowded city when you’re able to buy something for $600 with no registration, plates, brand identity, or colors, that can go 30mph silently while being no wider than your own shoulders at its thickest part, that can be easily stashed, brought indoors, thrown over a fence, etc. it’s currently the perfect urban crime vehicle unless you’re trying to steal something that won’t fit in a backpack.
Rob a place from a car and security cam and witness see a “red Honda Civic, plate number 123-3210” or “he went that way on a scooter”
I mean you can do the same thing with a bike, or on foot. How are scooters furthering an epidemic of crime? I just don’t see it being a legitimate complaint, although I don’t doubt they cherry pick a few crimes that have happened off of them, but with that same logic they could ban any form of transport. I mean think about being on foot. They have no registration (yet,) they can move in and out of streets and buildings, are virtually untraceable, can go from 0 to 20 mph in seconds.
With the likely same logic they used for this ban we could ban that foot traffic I bet. Or bikes. If there was a real concern about safety and crime they could regulate that part of it and not have a blanket ban all night that makes this form of transport impossible for many people. A safe-ish way for someone that had some drinks at the bar to get home without ruining their life, or the guy to get to work without having a vehicle, etc.
This Mayor Hates Freedom, and needs to be replaced. Maybe he’s afraid of the dark.
Ok. Be on foot. How far away from home or public transport you going? You faster running than a cop or someone else you pissed off? How far are you getting on foot?
Also, bikes are bigger, easier to identify, accelerate slower, and speaking as someone who road bikes, getting to 30mph is a hell of a lot of work on a flat ground. Let alone a hill.
So you are contending an epidemic of scooter crime justifies this ban to a degree? I am contending these laws are in bad faith with flawed logic and their stated reasons are ad hoc, as they can’t be honest about their real reasons because they would look like assholes, which they are.
I don’t think traffic safety is the reason. I think it’s crimes being done.
I don’t think criminals using scooters is a legitimate reason to ban scooters. Criminals use cars even more, they are much more effective for crimes. That can’t be the real reason. What is the real reason? Just they want to pick on them? Maybe the car drivers hate them all like they do bicyclists in many cities, fume of them jamming them up, not having to follow the same traffic laws. That is it I bet. This is a bad faith persecution of laws against car owners road rage targets.
I don’t agree with the ban, but you’re a bit naive in your thinking on how easy crimes can be in a crowded city when you’re able to buy something for $600 with no registration, plates, brand identity, or colors, that can go 30mph silently while being no wider than your own shoulders at its thickest part, that can be easily stashed, brought indoors, thrown over a fence, etc. it’s currently the perfect urban crime vehicle unless you’re trying to steal something that won’t fit in a backpack.
Rob a place from a car and security cam and witness see a “red Honda Civic, plate number 123-3210” or “he went that way on a scooter”
I mean you can do the same thing with a bike, or on foot. How are scooters furthering an epidemic of crime? I just don’t see it being a legitimate complaint, although I don’t doubt they cherry pick a few crimes that have happened off of them, but with that same logic they could ban any form of transport. I mean think about being on foot. They have no registration (yet,) they can move in and out of streets and buildings, are virtually untraceable, can go from 0 to 20 mph in seconds.
With the likely same logic they used for this ban we could ban that foot traffic I bet. Or bikes. If there was a real concern about safety and crime they could regulate that part of it and not have a blanket ban all night that makes this form of transport impossible for many people. A safe-ish way for someone that had some drinks at the bar to get home without ruining their life, or the guy to get to work without having a vehicle, etc.
This Mayor Hates Freedom, and needs to be replaced. Maybe he’s afraid of the dark.
Ok. Be on foot. How far away from home or public transport you going? You faster running than a cop or someone else you pissed off? How far are you getting on foot?
Also, bikes are bigger, easier to identify, accelerate slower, and speaking as someone who road bikes, getting to 30mph is a hell of a lot of work on a flat ground. Let alone a hill.
So you are contending an epidemic of scooter crime justifies this ban to a degree? I am contending these laws are in bad faith with flawed logic and their stated reasons are ad hoc, as they can’t be honest about their real reasons because they would look like assholes, which they are.