I was seeing the facts about issues to animals and environment, when I had already become vegetarian, had me knowing I should be vegan as soon as it could be managed, there were real obstacles for me still. And it was just what I read a couple of years after I was effectively vegan to know the healthy way, which I wanted, that being with whole foods from plants without the processed stuff that comes with food otherwise, and I changed to that, still making it healthier and healthier. Having plenty variety is really good for that.
You use “vegan” in a idiosyncratic way. I would never call Alice, who doesn’t consume animal products but kills animals for fun, a vegan.
Do you think all c/vegan communities in the fediverse have their sidebars wrong, as in they should be about diet and not veganism?
I would say Alice follows a vegan diet, and would wonder why she thinks it’s fun to kill animals, since wven moat carnists don’t do that.
I think vegan groups should speak to the full diversity of motivations for adopting veganism, whether in diet, lifestyle, or philosophy. It’s foolish to exclude people who do what you think is right but for different reasons. Unless you’re a religion I guess, and I’m not interested in that.
How do you define veganism?
I think vegan communities should welcome everyone, but words have meanings and we should use them correctly to make sure we make ourselves understood.
Imagine a community called c/politicians, made by politicians and it’s about politics. They welcome everyone, including a newcomer, Bob. Bob does not engage with any kind of policies but presents himself as a politician in the community. Would they be excluding him from the community by pointing out that his use of the word “politician” is wrong or, at least, very unique?
Veganism is, to the degree possible, the avoidance of the utilization/exploitaion of animals.
A vegan diet is a diet that follows this principle.
A vegan lifestyle is a lifestyle that follows this principle.
A vegan philosophy is a philosophy that supports this principle.
This isn’t that complicated.
I agree, that’s why I said there’s only one reason to go vegan. You have to be against exploiting animals.
There may be other reasons to go on a vegan diet, but this is the only reason to go vegan.
That’s not quite it.
I’m not saying why one goes vegan, but rather what it means when people say they are vegan.
Absent other modifiers, it’s about diet.