• @millie@beehaw.org
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    336 months ago

    Whether or not you want someone to use your likeness isn’t necessarily just a matter of money. You can’t just wave dollar bills at any objection and assume everything’s going to be okay. Some things are more important than a few bucks.

    • @PoisonedPrisonPanda
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      66 months ago

      Sure. I fully agree with you.

      But nonetheless its how technology works. Make something accessible to everyone (at least in digital technology)

      Lets compare it to how davinci would have though about the possibility of photocopying the mona lisa and bring the art into every household.

      Making him more fameous more than he could ever be by simply having one original picture in the louvre.

      I think this example can be done with any abritrary skill and digital modelling.

      Lets think ahead. A tennis player and his movements are used to train and create a robot which acts as a tennis teacher for tennis amateurs. It would also benefit the sport in general.

      • @millie@beehaw.org
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        6 months ago

        I mean, in the instance of legal use of a likeness outside of maybe some fair use cases, the technology doesn’t necessarily dictate that its own use is legitimate in all use cases. Some people independently training a model for private use may be harder or impossible to do anything about, but there’s definitely precedent for going after someone for profiting from your likeness without your consent.

        There may be some grounds where the sort of fair use that parody enjoys could apply to AI or the use of AI-derived likenesses, but I wouldn’t expect people’s rights to their own likeness to evaporate overnight unless copyright goes with them in some broader sense.

        The current controversy within SAG over whether to sign even a deal on a per-project basis for scanning actors seems like a pretty good indicator that the standards on this are far from ironed out.

        When it comes to training models, I do think it’s unrealistic to limit the use of materials that are readily and legitimately available on the internet for free. But straight up using AI to copy a likeness for profit is very different.

        • @PoisonedPrisonPanda
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          16 months ago

          Hmm. I think the discussion turning around copyright and fair use is somehow the bedrock of this.

          You are right. Since we cannot even find a solution to work for nowadays breaches of copyright, it will probably be still problematic in future cases as well.

          But I also see the chance to get rid of something on the way.

          As we know what does not work, like copyright law execution and the uphill battle of forcing it, we can truly think outside the box.

          i do not want to take sides on certain technologies for now as I never truly looked into such special case, but I could think of some kind of ownership verificatiom mechanism probably backed by cryptocurrency even nfts.

          I do not expect for people to pay in full compensation for skills (capitalism shows us on youtube how some ecosystem is formed) but I am confident that the market will nonetheless finds some solution. We will get more of everything, this means trash, and this means copythefted content as well but summing up the content will be better, and skill will find a way to sustain and be unique on its own.

          Anyway I am drifting off. I see many similarities in piracy discussions here in certain comminities. Because if it can be done, it will be done, and I see no choice but making the best out of it during the way.