Hello everyone,

Opening that thread following the latest discussions on !moviesandtv@lemm.ee.

I am now suggesting to retake this community or create another one that would be more structured, especially

  • weekly “what have you been watching lately” thread
  • dedicated threads for shows and TV. Discoverability of those threads would be eased by having a research bar in the sidebar.

What do you people think? Should we use this community, or create another one? If the latter, what would be the name? /c/moviestvreviews? /c/moviestvdiscussions? Feel free to share your suggestions

  • ᴇᴍᴘᴇʀᴏʀ 帝@feddit.ukM
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    9 months ago

    Bold suggestion:

    There is literature.cafe for books and instances for RPGs, video games, etc why not one for film and TV?

    You could have communities for genre or specific types of film (giallo? Slasher?) or regional films (French film, German film, etc).

    Big films/shows or franchises could get their own communities.

    There are various communities around that could move over to help get everything moving.

    • Blaze@reddthat.com
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      9 months ago

      Hello,

      Thank you for your suggestion, always happy to see you here.

      Since the fall of lemmy.film, seems like no one wanted to manage a movies instance.

      It might be nice to have it in the future, but I guess right now we only have communities

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        9 months ago

        Since the fall of lemmy.film, seems like no one wanted to manage a movies instance.

        I’d forgotten about that. However, there are many reasons an instance fails. There’s no obvious final message, it just looks like @jayrod@lemmy.film (using a federated link to get old messages) went MIA 7 months ago and the instance carried on for a couple more months. This seems common - it happened on feddit.uk when the original Admin’s enthusiasm waned. We came close to setting up a new instance and migrating everyone there but we got a message through and we were able to switch it over to a new sever and are just now working on funding. So it wasn’t that there wasn’t interest in keeping the instance going from the users but if you have a single point of failure (something else we’ve worked to correct) then, eventually, it will fail. It doesn’t mean it isn’t viable.

        @kingmongoose7877@lemmy.ml I believe you were the other Admin - any insight?

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          9 months ago

          So it wasn’t that there wasn’t interest in keeping the instance going from the users but if you have a single point of failure (something else we’ve worked to correct) then, eventually, it will fail. It doesn’t mean it isn’t viable.

          What I meant is that at the end of the day you need at least two people interested in managing an instance on that topic.

          Nobody wanted to do this so far (we barely get enough moderators already, and adminis are even fewer), but maybe this might change in the future.

          In the meantime, I guess we’re here.

          And indeed, I had followed the whole thing on feddit.uk, it’s nice that you were able to save it

        • kingmongoose7877@lemmy.ml
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          9 months ago

          Dearest ᴇᴍᴘᴇʀᴏʀ 帝,

          Yes, I was the other admin @ lemmy.film, “second in command” if you will. No, I have no insights regarding what happened over there as it wasn’t my server/instance. You nailed the timeline of events; after many attempts to contact @jayrod@lemmy.film, just like all of you, one day I went to lemmy.film only to see that Cloudflare “Web server is down” page. Hey, fun while it lasted and all that.

          If I may (now that you’ve woken me up), I think it’s kind of…dickish uncool…for this community to steal appropriate the graphics from !moviesandtv@lemmy.film. I mean, they weren’t mine or anything but still. Grave robbing, anybody? What does it take to come up with something new?

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            9 months ago

            If I may (now that you’ve woken me up), I think it’s kind of…dickish uncool…for this community to steal appropriate the graphics from !moviesandtv@lemmy.film. I mean, they weren’t mine or anything but still. Grave robbing, anybody? What does it take to come up with something new?

            It was more as a hommage than anything else. Do you know where it came from?

            Also, you might want to raise those concerns to !moviesandtv@lemm.ee, they are in the same case

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    10 months ago

    I would really love to see a /c/moviestvdiscussions explicitly. In an ideal world you’d see more direct support from existing movie/tv communities as most of those mods do not seem interested in the extra work. Otherwise, I feel like direct competition with the larger communities will act to everybody’s detriment. That said, I did suggest this to @Djinn@lemm.ee and it looked like they simply downvoted and moved on, so that is obviously not ideal. On the other hand, a larger contingent making this suggestion may convince them.

    Another path forward may be to reach out to !movies@lemmy.world and !movies@lemmy.ml for links in order to drive traffic here. The former of the two seems to have previously hosted such threads but appears to have stopped (maybe due to the moderation requirements?). If done correctly, this may leave the fediverse more connected while improving the overall quality and levels of content on each community. Given enough momentum !moviesandtv@lemm.ee may find it difficult to remain in opposition to this project.

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      10 months ago

      Thank you very much for this suggestion.

      I like the idea of having a community clearly dedicated to discussions too, but I guess that can be something we decide after we get a few more people active here. Maybe we can just keep this one and have clear rules on what type of content is allowed.

      I might post to !movies@lemmy.world, but I’ll probably have to contact the mods first as it might seem rude to promote a similar community on theirs.

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    10 months ago

    Proposition of rules

    • To prevent news from overwhelming the community, news article are either posted in the Weekly news thread, or in the movie/show Discussion thread. We can make use of Lemmy’s new comments feature to see them.
    • Posts are of a few different types: Discussion thread, Weekly thread (what have you watched, news), Discussion (any subject is welcome), Posters, Trailers. That way the amount of posts will be limited, encouraging discussions in threads.

    Let me know if that makes sense or is completely nuts.

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      10 months ago

      Edit : aldready [sic.] getting downvoated [sic.] sweet.

      I didn’t downvote this comment but I can tell you that it’s probably because your spelling, punctuation, capitalization, and grammar are so atrocious that it’s hard to figure out what you’re even saying. The culture of Reddit-style message boards has long been to discourage low-effort content. It takes like 30 seconds to proofread your comment/post before pressing submit. Don’t write like a 13 year-old girl on an AOL chatroom in 2003, and people may be less inclined to downvote you.

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        10 months ago

        Thank you for pointing this out, at least it clarifies the issues

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          10 months ago

          No problem. My personal philosophy is not to downvote comments with a lot of errors unless they are so serious as to make it impossible to understand, but I would normally downvote a top-level post if it had that level of messiness going on.

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            10 months ago

            Sounds fair

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        10 months ago

        Ok i fixed it the best i can with the time i have . If you need me to fix anything else i’ll do so gladly .

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          10 months ago

          I don’t “need” anything. I’m just explaining to you why people are likely downvoting you.

          • THEDAEMON@lemmy.ml
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            10 months ago

            Oh man i did’nt say it like that at all. It’s a problem on the internet that you can’t understand people’s tunes, moods etc. I just meant it like if you need me to fix anything that will make reading that for you or other people better just tell me and i’ll do it . I hope that helps you better understand my intentions .

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              10 months ago

              Okay yeah, fair enough. On that note you may also be getting downvoted because of the “Let’s do something to troll people (just kidding… (or am I?))” tone of your comment. It’s hard to articulate why, but that sort of tone comes across as wasting the reader’s time in a forum environment. Just say what you want to say and don’t couch it in multiple layers of irony and sarcasm. People won’t know what you are actually suggesting.

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                10 months ago

                It’s a reference and yes people on lemmy , reddit and forums does that .

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                  10 months ago

                  I wasn’t referring to that specific quote, but rather the overall tone of your comment. It seems like you genuinely want to see some vengeful/discordant action taken, which I think a lot of people would take issue with.

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        10 months ago

        Yeah one of the down sides of switching from gboard is no one will hold your hand anymore i guess. EDIT: fixed what i can in 30 seconds . Also why a 13 year old girl why can’t it be a 13 year old boy ? Not trying to offend anyone just asking ?

        • BlazeOPM
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          10 months ago

          Which keyboard are you using?

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            10 months ago

            Florisboard i am thinking about switching to the fossify one when they release it because even though the dev says he is going to continue development it looks abandoned so wouldn’t recommend

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              Florisboard i am thinking about switching to the fossify one when they release it because even though the dev says he is going to continue development it looks abandoned so wouldn’t recommend

              Listen, you can’t blame a keyboard for the fact that this comment has no punctuation, and is one giant run-on sentence. You have to add that yourself on every keyboard I’ve ever used.

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                10 months ago

                I was talking about the typos and auto capitalisation but ok man you do you .

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            10 months ago

            Damn, that’s something I hadn’t seen in a long time

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              10 months ago

              I kinda didn’t realize that was what I was even referring to when I said “13 year-old girl on an AOL chatroom” until after they asked me about it. Funny how our brains can have these hardwired associations to things we don’t actively remember exist.

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      10 months ago

      we should open it in a different instance

      I really like lemm.ee, the admin is a nice person. It’s also the second biggest instance behind LW, so more visibility.

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      10 months ago

      Edit : aldready getting downvoated sweet.

      I’m really surprised about what is happening here