• Ghostalmedia@lemmy.worldEnglish
    42·
    11 months ago

    Dead give away should’ve been the French, who smoke more than the US, put butter on everything, and didn’t fully ban drinking alcohol at school until the 80’s.

    • idiomaddict@feddit.de
      14·
      11 months ago

      For the students or the teachers? Just kidding, there’s a reason nobody drug tests teachers.

      • Ghostalmedia@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        11 months ago

        Both.

        Kids of all ages could drink at school up until the mid 50’s, then it was capped to 14 and up. In the 80’s alcohol was banned from schools entirely, and before that, high school kids and teachers could drink alcohol at school.

  • rumschlumpel@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    20·
    11 months ago

    I’m in Germany, those Italians live way longer than us. It’s probably our higher rates for overweight/obesity and alcohol abuse, though.

    • idiomaddict@feddit.de
      9·
      11 months ago

      And the food (outside of the bread and Sauerkraut) is much less healthy regardless of the weight. Döner and Abendbrot aren’t exactly great for you, with more traditional foods being even worse for you (Klöße, Kartoffelsalat, (Curry-) Würst, Schweinshaxe, Rinderbraten, Schnitzel (don’t @ me), Spargel mit Sauce, Maultaschen, and so on). I love the vegan Maultaschen (raw, fried with onions, and in broth), and every kind of potato, but it’s something I try not to eat regularly (except for the raw vegetable Maultaschen, those are actually pretty good for you, if you don’t find the dough unpleasant). I know modern Germans often eat very differently, and I’m not saying that everyone in any country eats the same way as their ancestors did, I just think it has an effect on the general dietary trends for a country/culture.

      It’s also not Germany’s “fault” (it’s not a result of gluttony or anything), there were a lot fewer vegetables and a smaller growing window for them throughout Germany’s history. That’s why Sauerkraut and asparagus are such big deals in Germany (Spargelzeit is a very cute, weird thing that nobody prepared me for, but it’s super overpriced and frankly not high quality or to my taste in restaurants): before global trade was fast and reliable, they were the primary source of vitamin C during the winter and the first fresh spring vegetable available, respectively. It’s also why potatoes and whole grain bread from multiple types of grain is so prevalent: they’re good sources of fiber and trace nutrients that keep well during a long winter and grow well in a cooler climate. It’s just the types of food people eat with/in/on the potatoes and bread/Brötchen that make them unhealthy.

      Edit: I should add that I’ve basically only lived in big student cities (and the only family whose eating habits I really know eats mostly healthy and basically as healthily as practicable with so many young kids), so I could also have a skewed idea of how Germans eat.

      • rumschlumpel@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        2·
        11 months ago

        IME, traditional German cooking is often quite healthy, at least the homecooked stuff that I’ve seen (mostly in my own family). Of course the meat portions are usually too big, but there’s typically big portions of vegetables and cooked potatoes aren’t unhealthy, either. Even Döner is fine if you go easy on the meat and sauce - it’s basically a salad! Main issue is portion control, eating what’s basically fast food like schnitzel with fries instead of schnitzel with potatoes and sauerkraut, and all the other stuff that people eat in a day (sweets, snacks, booze, bread with fatty cold cuts, cheese and tons of butter).

        Too bad I hate the taste and texture of boiled potatoes and most of the traditional vegetables!

    • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      9·
      11 months ago

      But to get actual olive oil you have to go with domestic providers because imports are often cut with other oils and masked with olive flavoring. Similar to how a lot of powdered parmesan is fucking sawdust.

      Actual olive oil is expensive.

  • x4740N@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5·
    11 months ago

    Wasn’t there that story about a village living long because going berries dropped from a Bush into their well leaving antioxidants in their water

    Don’t know the validity of it though