• Troy@lemmy.ca
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    5 months ago

    Y’know, instead of just swapping one superstition for another, maybe chase enlightened atheism. ;)

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        5 months ago

        nothing more dogmatic than religion though.

        paganism is not atheism.

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              5 months ago

              No not at all.

              It’s largely about practice. Community. Art. States of consciousness. Good conduct.

              Belief can be a fetter that holds you back, more often than not.

              i tought religion was belief-based by definition?

              There is no scholarly definition of ‘religion’.

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                5 months ago

                You mentioned things that are not related to religion at all, that both religious and non-religious people do.

                I agree belief holds you back, thats probably a central reason why most atheists are atheists.

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                  5 months ago

                  Atheists’ dogmatic commitment to their atheism often messes them up; I’ve seen it.

                  Belief is not related to religion, and is something both non-religious people (dogmatic politics, dogmatic personal belief) and religious (Muslim, atheist) people do.

                  Reject belief-based religions like Xtianity and atheism. Retrurn to ecstatic and noble practices.

                  As the Buddha said, “If you were not to adhere to this view — so pure, so bright — if you were to not to cherish it, not to treasure it, not to regard it as ‘mine,’ would you understand the Dhamma taught as analogous to a raft, for crossing over, not for holding on to?”

                  You mentioned things that are not related to religion at all

                  No I didn’t lol

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                    5 months ago

                    What? Atheism and agnosticism are defined as a lack of belief in a deity… Its pretty much the only real point to it.

                    Never heard of non-religious folk get messed up by religious dogma, watever that is supposed to mean.

                    I’m sorry but you are simply not making any sense.