Basically I’m looking for a heterodox political lemmy community where moderate opinions are valued and the level of discourse is pretty good. Where people are there to talk and there’s not as much venting.

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    8 months ago

    From what I’ve seen so far, lemmy is pretty radical left. I doubt you’ll find folks saying anything good about moderate opinions.

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      8 months ago

      I consider myself pretty far left and I find a lot of people here both insufferable and unable to hold a discussion without insults. And that’s coming from people to the left of me.

      It’s hard, and I’m quickly going back to not talking about politics online. I’d hoped Lemmy would be a little better.

      It also annoys me to no end that I have to defend Biden from people who have no political perspective.

      Like the crime bill they attack him for that passed both houses with large bipartisan support.

      It means NOTHING to retrospectively say the country was on a wrong path. He can’t fix having done that, he can only do better. And by my liberal standards he’s done fine.

      So apparently this almost socialist is a moderate here. What the hell?

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        8 months ago

        Yep. It’s quite frustrating, because I want to support the concept of the community and what it supports tech-wise, but frequently I find myself clicking off the site because I’ve seen something political so eye-rollingly crazy I don’t feel like sticking around.

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        I consider myself pretty far left and I find a lot of people here both insufferable and unable to hold a discussion without insults. And that’s coming from people to the left of me.

        I’m a mod on Politics and World News. Every day it’s one slapfight or shit storm or another.

        Then I just retreat to Comic Books and relax. :)

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          8 months ago

          I was in an argument on lemmy.ml the other day and didn’t realize. (Not even lemmygrad.)

          They were saying the US must drop charges against Assange because First Amendment.

          I was arguing that’s a legal defense to present in court and got down voted and eventually deleted.

          Like what, you think you can whine at a government enough and then they’ll just ignore their entire legal system?

          They want what they want and they want it yesterday, damnit!

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            8 months ago

            The thing I didn’t know at first is that the reason it’s lemmy.ml is because they wanted to be up front that it’s “Marxist/Leninist”.

            https://lemmy.ml/post/55143

            I don’t think they’re as overtly tankie as lemmygrad or beehaw, but, yeah… it’s kind of baked in.

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              8 months ago

              I fucking hate all these trendy uses of country codes. I just assumed it was based out of Malaysia or something.

              I’ve also noticed that users of shit.just.works are apolitical assholes, which belies that they aren’t apolitical in the first place. And it’s a stupid name.

              Edit: I didn’t mean for that to link.

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      8 months ago

      Yeah. Asking for moderate political discussion on Lemmy is like going to the model train expo and asking where the spot for G.I. Joe’s is. It’s a pretty unapologetically hard left site