That was one of the more interesting SOTU addresses I’ve seen. Personally, I think he said most of the things that needed to be said, and he said them reasonably well. I’m sure he’s going to get some flack for attacking Trump directly (though not by name), but I was frankly glad to see it. Doing otherwise makes it seem like it’s just your typical election/political disagreements, but we’re past that now.

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    obviously the republicans are more to blame for the roe v wade repeal, but Democrats have blood on their hands too. It’s been half a century since 1974 and the Democrats have had many majorities and presidencies since then. At no point did they pass some sort of abortion bill.

    and joe biden has been a leading figure in the democratic party for nearly as long

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      The majority of Americans felt Roe was the right stance - that abortions should be legal with restrictions, and that states should have a say in those restrictions. Stocking SCOTUS with conservatives (in part by refusing to confirm a judge nominated by a Democrat), and then overturning Roe wasn’t something most realized needed to be fought against.

      And, regardless, you posted the thing about it happening on his watch as an argument against him - which means you prefer the ones they’re fighting against, the ones who are actively trying to take away a woman’s ability to oversee her own healthcare. How does that make sense?

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        8 months ago

        You are losing rights no matter who sits in the Whitehouse lol. Your country was never the propagandized version of what you want it to be, but it’s somehow getting worse.

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          It’s getting worse for sure, but it’s getting worse because it’s sliding right, and it’s sliding right in part because people like you keep arguing that left-leaning people shouldn’t vote for the more left of two candidates because they aren’t left enough, resulting in the more right-leaning candidate getting elected. You’re the cause of the very thing you’re complaining about.

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          If Trumps three Supreme Court picks had been made by Clinton or Sanders instead, there wouldn’t be the current discussion about losing rights.

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            8 months ago

            If my nan had wheels, she’d be a bike. Sanders didn’t win because racism and greed are more important values to your country than freedom and empathy.

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              It’s not about who won or lost, it’s about your statement that “You are losing rights no matter who sits in the Whitehouse lol.”

              That’s patently false. If the White House had been held by Clinton or Sanders when those three Supreme Court nominees were selected, we would not be having the discussion of lost rights.