That was one of the more interesting SOTU addresses I’ve seen. Personally, I think he said most of the things that needed to be said, and he said them reasonably well. I’m sure he’s going to get some flack for attacking Trump directly (though not by name), but I was frankly glad to see it. Doing otherwise makes it seem like it’s just your typical election/political disagreements, but we’re past that now.

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    I think you’re arguing against voting for Biden, which ends up being the same as supporting Trump. You’re either doing that intentionally or you can’t grasp the simple fact.

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      I think trump is worse than Biden. You’d have to be a braindead American to think otherwise. Now that I’ve passed the purity test, what would you like to talk about? The genocide, the migrants in cages, or the record oil production? Record homelessness? His strike breaking?

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        All of those things are problems, and we should talk about them and how to fix them. Biden says they’re problems, too. If we’re in a thread about, say, the southern border, and you were bringing up these issues and Biden’s failings, I’d be right along with you.

        What I object to is people coming into a thread about who should be the next president saying “Fuck Biden” because he isn’t doing enough at the border or hasn’t taken a strong enough stand on Gaza. I object to that because the implicit message is “don’t vote for Biden,” which will directly result in Trump getting elected, and Trump is far worse in all these areas.

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          You can’t vote your way out of the gradual decay of capitalism into fascism. Good luck with everything.

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            If you consistently vote for the better candidates, you will reverse the decay. If you throw up your hands and the worse candidates keep winning, you increase the decay.

            Seriously, what’s the better solution in this election?

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              If you consistently vote for the better candidates, you will reverse the decay.

              You have been sliding to the right since the late 1970s. I can report with full confidence that you cannot reverse the decay by simply voting for the lesser of two evils.

              The only sensible solution is to overthrow our capitalist overlords and show the owner class that the guillotine isnt off the table. Some say I’m radical, though.

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      I think you’re arguing against voting for Biden, which ends up being the same as supporting Trump. You’re either doing that intentionally or you can’t grasp the simple fact.

      false dichotomy

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        It’s really not. We have a two party system. If you don’t vote for the better choice, you might as well vote for the other. It really is that simple.

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          this is all just storytelling. it’s not even true. voting for another candidate is voting against all other candidates, and, if i’m voting for them, then i must believe they are, in fact, the better choice.

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            If someone doesn’t believe Biden is the better choice over Trump, there’s really not much left to discuss at this point. We all know who Trump is.

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              If someone doesn’t believe Biden is the better choice over Trump, there’s really not much left to discuss at this point. We all know who Trump is.

              it’s not about whether he’s better than trump, it’s about whether he’s acceptable. there are much better candidates, in my opinion