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The European automotive industry is striving to adapt to market changes driven by the dual green and digital transition.

Instead of just electrifying vehicles, cities should be investing in alternative methods of transportation. This article is by the Scientific Foresight Unit of the European Parliamentary Research Service (EPRS), a EU’s own think tank.

  • revisable677@feddit.deOPEnglish
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    4 months ago

    The scooters they mention in the article are the e-scooters you ride standing up in the bike lane. Not mopeds.

    I also think mopeds are a good replacement to cars, much more appropriate for 1-2 people in urban areas. But it needs to be the quieter models. The two-stroke-engine ones are just really too loud for a city. (and they burn motor oil as well as gas)

    • freedomPusher@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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      4 months ago

      The scooters they mention in the article are the e-scooters you ride standing up in the bike lane.

      No they are not. That makes no sense. Stand-up e-scooters are relatively quiet. Quotes from the article (emphasis added):

      “worst of all, the high-pitched wail of motor scooters that speed by every few seconds.”

      “Motorcycles and scooters — often with their exhaust systems illegally modified to boost noise and power”

      “The noise can be ear-splitting,”

      Obviously you would not describe a stand-up scooter as ear-splitting or capable of waking someone up. They’re talking about gas small gas combustion engines, most of which are the worst variety on scooters: 2-stroke.

      Or if you meant the OP’s article is talking about e-scooters, that article actually covered both:

      “Weight rates are usually over 10 times more favourable for the average motorbike or scooter and, of course, even better for lighter vehicles such as electric bicycles or kick-scooters.”

      My reaction was to the idea that motor scooters are more favorable by a factor of 10 due to the weight – which is true, but my criteria is more complex than just ecocide-avoidance… I want my sleep too!

      • revisable677@feddit.deOPEnglish
        2·
        3 months ago

        True, I was talking about OP’s article but you’re also right that they mention both. I was thinking of the mentioned ban of scooters in Paris, this one only refers to the stand up e-scooters.

        • freedomPusher@sopuli.xyzEnglish
          1·
          3 months ago

          They banned e-scooters in Paris? I’ve not heard that. Was it just the rentals or all e-scooters?

          The article I referenced said Paris is banning noisy scooters, which would be motor scooters.