I know there’s more to PC games than just steam, but honestly the only issue I’ve had playing games on the steamdeck is when there’s some horrible anticheat service required by the game.
I guess the problem is that the games with anticheat also tend to be quite popular ones with some people
I thought the same thing until a couple weeks ago, then tried out EndeavourOS which is based on Arch and comes with Nvidia drivers. It’s been awesome and I’ve been able to play whatever I want.
I can’t recall a specific title and didn’t take notes. I think the Batman Arkhams were problematic as well as one of the Ghost Recons.
Speaking generally, on Linux framerates were worse, stability was worse and there was more hassle to get games even running. Sometimes launching the launcher was its own adventure.
Of course that’s a Windows-born problem as all the software is designed towards it. But what gives? Linux was (and still is) at best on par with Windows but often not even that.
And this is what counts for me at the end of a working day: I don’t want to work more and then game worse.
A cheap Windows license is like thirty quid. Nothing in comparison to the cost of even an entry-level gaming PC. And it works. And it has all the other software.
What does Linux offer me as an ignorant gamer so I’d exchange that out-of-the-box experience?
My favourite game was always hacking around in Wine to make games work. Once I got them working I lost interest and moved on to the next game… Now I don’t have time to play games. :(
And I’d almost bet these two to three titles run fine in Windows which is exactly the point: what is Linux’s advantage here concerning gaming?
When I want to play a certain title I don’t want something similar because that derivate runs on Linux. That’s maybe okay for casual games like a round of Solitaire where the Linux alternatives are fine.
Because it does everything I need it to do and if I run into issues I can’t solve myself I know that just because of the number of people using it the problem will be known and a solution will exist.
I don’t mind playing with Linux on my RPi, but having to use it daily and always having to use command lines to deal with things (thus having to search for the right command line every time) gets tiring.
For the most part Windows just works out of the box and there are things I would much rather do with my time than searching the depth of the internet to find that one person that had the same problem as me and that might or might not have found a solution to their issue…
And as other people mentioned, my computer is mostly used for gaming these days so it’s easier to use the platform that’s the must widely supported for that purpose.
Iirc there were some windows 10 patch tools to debloat and remove some of these annoyance from the iso and some scripts for already installed ones. Try some of them, it was pretty good when I last used it but can’t remember the ones I personally used sorry.
which is ok. the cool thing about switching to linux is that you don’t have to take risks(e.g. buy an expensive os/hardware) so you can try it out, switch back, wait a bit and try again. I did that and last year was the year of the linux Desktop for me (also thanks to the steam deck)
It’s just annoying that the issue isn’t even Linux itself most of the time, but rather game developers deliberately breaking or denying support for it.
But at the end of the day, if you can’t play your games, you can’t play your games, the reason for that doesn’t matter.
Gaming on Linux is pretty damn great nowadays. More and more new releases run day one, Proton and Wine are being tirelessly worked on, and for most games it’s as simple as enabling Steam Play in an absolutely seamless set-and-forget type of way.
The biggest problem are still competitive games and their anticheat, and while some titles enable Linux support, others go out of their way to show us the middle finger, sometimes even banning accounts using Linux.
And that only gets worse when so many games have moved to more invasive anticheat solutions that wouldn’t work the way Linux handles these things.
I use a windows VM with OVMF passthrough. For maximum convenience, I reused my old rx 580 as windowsbox dedicated passthrough gpu, with 8gb of RAM.
It works like a charm. Anything on Linux that can’t be run smoothly, VM solves it, at the convenience juat starting the VM when I need it, then close and go on with my day. I also use tiling WM so I can assign the VM to its own workspace, fullscreen and everything, so theres very little friction.
Encourage anyone that is in this situation to try it out, for from what i’ve seen, the problem is more of compatibility niche problems than actually something inherently wrong with Linux.
If you don’t use your machine nonstop, than restarting shouldn’t be an issue. IF shindows can shutdown very quickly, than it should take about a minute or less to switch. You can go to the bathroom and upon return you already have switched.
I use Linux distro almost 24/7, so installing/having another OS just for SOME games is a super huge pain. And I don’t game much anyway, cuz potato machine.
I’ve been playing with computers, building them and troubleshooting issues on them since we first had a 386, thanks for your concerns with my abilities.
I’ve installed Linux many times and I always go back to Windows 🤷
Why?
Windows runs 10 out of 10 games, Linux does 8 of which 4 only barely run at all.
Don’t get me wrong: Windows really is the worst OS, except all the others.
I know there’s more to PC games than just steam, but honestly the only issue I’ve had playing games on the steamdeck is when there’s some horrible anticheat service required by the game.
I guess the problem is that the games with anticheat also tend to be quite popular ones with some people
I thought the same thing until a couple weeks ago, then tried out EndeavourOS which is based on Arch and comes with Nvidia drivers. It’s been awesome and I’ve been able to play whatever I want.
Out of curiosity, can you name some games that don’t work?
I can’t recall a specific title and didn’t take notes. I think the Batman Arkhams were problematic as well as one of the Ghost Recons.
Speaking generally, on Linux framerates were worse, stability was worse and there was more hassle to get games even running. Sometimes launching the launcher was its own adventure.
Of course that’s a Windows-born problem as all the software is designed towards it. But what gives? Linux was (and still is) at best on par with Windows but often not even that. And this is what counts for me at the end of a working day: I don’t want to work more and then game worse.
A cheap Windows license is like thirty quid. Nothing in comparison to the cost of even an entry-level gaming PC. And it works. And it has all the other software.
What does Linux offer me as an ignorant gamer so I’d exchange that out-of-the-box experience?
My favourite game was always hacking around in Wine to make games work. Once I got them working I lost interest and moved on to the next game… Now I don’t have time to play games. :(
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Everybody chooses their own poison
That stat about games doesn’t track for me
Most Windows games i try run fine on linux
“Most”.
Yeah, out of dozens and dozens of games I’ve ran, about 2 or 3 didn’t work
And I’d almost bet these two to three titles run fine in Windows which is exactly the point: what is Linux’s advantage here concerning gaming?
When I want to play a certain title I don’t want something similar because that derivate runs on Linux. That’s maybe okay for casual games like a round of Solitaire where the Linux alternatives are fine.
Windows 95 maybe… these games were old AF. Nothing made within the past 20 years has this issue.
The only games that don’t run on Linux now, are games that don’t run on Windows, either
The advantage? I genuinely have a much easier time setting up games on Linux
Because it does everything I need it to do and if I run into issues I can’t solve myself I know that just because of the number of people using it the problem will be known and a solution will exist.
I don’t mind playing with Linux on my RPi, but having to use it daily and always having to use command lines to deal with things (thus having to search for the right command line every time) gets tiring.
For the most part Windows just works out of the box and there are things I would much rather do with my time than searching the depth of the internet to find that one person that had the same problem as me and that might or might not have found a solution to their issue…
And as other people mentioned, my computer is mostly used for gaming these days so it’s easier to use the platform that’s the must widely supported for that purpose.
I’ve put Windows on a spare drive on my PC a few times and always end up deleting it again 🤷
Windows comes and goes on a spare drive on my main machine as well.
It’s there for the occasional Steam game that won’t run otherwise. Needless to say, it doesn’t get much use nowadays.
It just annoyed me every few weeks when I DID boot it, I had to deal with Windows Update
Which is the WORST operating system update manager ever designed
Heyo! We gonna reboot now! Kthks bye!
Iirc there were some windows 10 patch tools to debloat and remove some of these annoyance from the iso and some scripts for already installed ones. Try some of them, it was pretty good when I last used it but can’t remember the ones I personally used sorry.
which is ok. the cool thing about switching to linux is that you don’t have to take risks(e.g. buy an expensive os/hardware) so you can try it out, switch back, wait a bit and try again. I did that and last year was the year of the linux Desktop for me (also thanks to the steam deck)
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Probably just a gamer. My cycle is normally:
Yeah, that’s fair.
It’s just annoying that the issue isn’t even Linux itself most of the time, but rather game developers deliberately breaking or denying support for it.
But at the end of the day, if you can’t play your games, you can’t play your games, the reason for that doesn’t matter.
The way things have gone over recent years, I don’t think it’ll be all that long before I can make a permanent switch.
Gaming on Linux is pretty damn great nowadays. More and more new releases run day one, Proton and Wine are being tirelessly worked on, and for most games it’s as simple as enabling Steam Play in an absolutely seamless set-and-forget type of way.
The biggest problem are still competitive games and their anticheat, and while some titles enable Linux support, others go out of their way to show us the middle finger, sometimes even banning accounts using Linux.
And that only gets worse when so many games have moved to more invasive anticheat solutions that wouldn’t work the way Linux handles these things.
QEMU
I use a windows VM with OVMF passthrough. For maximum convenience, I reused my old rx 580 as windowsbox dedicated passthrough gpu, with 8gb of RAM.
It works like a charm. Anything on Linux that can’t be run smoothly, VM solves it, at the convenience juat starting the VM when I need it, then close and go on with my day. I also use tiling WM so I can assign the VM to its own workspace, fullscreen and everything, so theres very little friction.
Encourage anyone that is in this situation to try it out, for from what i’ve seen, the problem is more of compatibility niche problems than actually something inherently wrong with Linux.
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If you don’t use your machine nonstop, than restarting shouldn’t be an issue. IF shindows can shutdown very quickly, than it should take about a minute or less to switch. You can go to the bathroom and upon return you already have switched.
I use Linux distro almost 24/7, so installing/having another OS just for SOME games is a super huge pain. And I don’t game much anyway, cuz potato machine.
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You cared enough to comment though.
Good for you.
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I’ve been playing with computers, building them and troubleshooting issues on them since we first had a 386, thanks for your concerns with my abilities.
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Maybe you shouldn’t use social media if you feel the need to be mean to people who don’t agree with you, yet here you are 🤷
People like you are the reason linux will never have a double digit percent install base.
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Cool. Has nothing to do with my point.
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I don’t miss the point entirely. I also don’t shit on people not knowing what I know about things I have a ton of experience in. Cunt.