The snake (of the trouser variety) tempts Eve with the forbidden fruit (hanky panky) that she shares with Adam. The consequence of which is painful childbirth.

They’re even specifically stated to be naked for this situation.

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      Going off modern analogs and historic evidence, they had to work about 20 hours a week or even less…

      https://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/for-95-percent-of-human-history-people-worked-15-hours-a-week-could-we-do-it-again.html

      Look at pretty much any other animal, most of their time is hanging out resting while either being ready to run after food or run away so they’re not food

      With a low population density, it wasn’t that hard for a tribe to get enough food for everyone.

      Life was pretty sweet for everyone from what we can tell.

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        Does that count having to find or build shelter every time you had to relocate?

        Why did a number of native American tribes settle and become agrarian? Seems unlikely it was forced by wealthy landowners.

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          Why did a number of native American tribes settle and become agrarian? Seems unlikely it was forced by wealthy landowners.

          Companies advertise their products, do you think the only people that buy them are ones who have seen the advertisements?

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              Why did a number of native American tribes settle and become agrarian? Seems unlikely it was forced by wealthy landowners.

              I said Abrhamic religions were an advertisement for agriculture.

              You asked my why anyone would move to agriculture if it hadn’t been advertised to them.

              I was trying to help you realize that.

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                No you didn’t, and no they weren’t, and no I didn’t. Also I was talking before the arrival of the Spanish (though I only implied that part).

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        I think it may skew the numbers a bit if you count hiding / running away from predators as working.

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        Do you have a good source for the life expected claim? That sounds interesting.

        I do see some articles/blogs that claim that we’re just getting back to the same adult life expectancy, but the majority of sources that look like they’re actual studies or point to read data I can find don’t seem to match. Seems more like it was not totally uncommon to live to 70 or 80, but if you survived to 30 or so (which was a much bigger if, even excluding infant mortality), you were probably going to make it more to about 50 or so.

        Studies of relatively modern hunter gatherers seem to be similar. And of course how hostile the environment was made a difference.

        But would be interested in reading more on it if you have some good sources

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      Somebody worked out that hunter/gatherers only averaged 4-5 hrs of work a day. I think I’m pulling this from a recent episode of ‘No Such Thing as a Fish’