• Buelldozer@lemmy.today
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      8 个月前

      As long as there is a system where anything is power corruption will take hold. Want food and only that group over there has any? Well, now they’ve got the power. Do you make clothes and that guy over there wants some? You have the power. Resource scarcity leads to power, power leads to abuse, abuse leads to corruption.

      The only way the cycle is broken is for nearly everything to be accessible to nearly everyone nearly all the time. That, in a nutshell, is “Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism” and the only way it can be achieved is by reaching a true post scarcity society.

      Huh, i just realized where I’m commenting. Hi Socialists!

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      8 个月前

      Corruption doesn’t come from money, it comes from biological life’s need to survive and reproduce. Corruption will take hold, not in systems where money is power, but in any system comprised of human beings.

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              8 个月前

              People will prioritise their own benefit at the expense of others’. They will enrich themselves.

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                8 个月前

                No, people prioritize thier own benefit. People work to improve their material conditions, doing so at the expense of others is unnatural, because humans are a social, cooperative species.

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                  8 个月前

                  doing so at the expense of others is unnatural, because humans are a social, cooperative species

                  Your assertion that exploiting others is unnatural is patently absurd. To repeat myself from elsewhere:

                  Co-operation doesn’t conflict with greed. Humans can and must co-operate within society to survive but humans are also motivated to do everything they can to screw over others to ensure their genes have the greatest chance of propagating, as long as screwing over others doesn’t threaten survival.

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                    8 个月前

                    You can claim bullshit, but it doesn’t make it true. It’s a naturalistic fallacy.

                    Think about what you just said, logically: you think people have an intrinsic motivation to screw over others to get ahead, but also that humans are communal? You believe being selfish and greedy is positively related to reproduction, despite being massive red flags and hindering the group’s survival?

                    Nonsense.