I want to float what’s perhaps a controversial opinion to see what everybody’s thoughts on the matter are. The general consensus is to try and be polite at all times. However, I will argue that there are necessary limits to politeness and that it can be counterproductive at times.

When somebody makes a comment in good faith, I think it’s important to engage with it in good faith. If there is a disagreement then it can be articulated in a clear and polite manner. The hope is that the discussion will be productive and everyone will learn something in the process.

On the other hand, when comments are made with the intention of trolling then trying to engage them as if they were made in good faith only plays into the hands of the troll. Addressing the points that the troll makes as if they had merit implicitly validates these points as if they need to be debated.

In my view, the proper response to trolls is ridicule. They have to be called out for what they are and we should not take the bait to attempt starting a debate with them. Instead, it’s better to simply make it clear that the opinion is garbage and not worth discussing.

The argument against being snarky is that it can drive people away, but I don’t know that there is much weight to that in practice. Anybody who’s read Lenin can see that his writing is full of snark, and he often ridiculed opportunists and revisionists. Clearly that didn’t hinder the Bolshevik movement all that much.

I think it’s important for us to express confidence in our views, and to be assertive about our positions. The facts are on our side, and we don’t need to act as if our position is the one that needs defending.

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    I think a good way of understanding this is that liberals have very few differences with fascists, but liberalism is normalised. You wouldn’t be polite or non violent with a fascist. They either go jailed and in a reeducation camp or dead in a coffin.

    There are cases of ignorance and people need to be educated, but there are cases of ideological afirmation which do not deserve any good response or treatment.

    I think, though, that personally, beyond of this point as a movement or whatnot, it hurts one psychologically and because of that it should not be followed. It triggers rage and it is not a good thing to live by. Lenin may have been snarky, but he didn’t exchanged letters with 20 politically analphabet liberals a day. I think blocking is better since you won’t even produce anything good with them any way.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.mlOP
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      That’s a really good point, we live in a much more connected world today and places like online forums create dynamics where we end up engaging with a lot of people who are completely outside our regular social circles. I started blocking people who follow me around a couple of weeks ago and it definitely helped improve quality of interactions a lot.