Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid!

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutā€™nā€™paste it into its own post, thereā€™s no quota for posting and the bar really isnā€™t that high

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many ā€œesotericā€ right wing freaks, but thereā€™s no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iā€™m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged ā€œculture criticsā€ who write about everything but understand nothing. Iā€™m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyā€™re inescapable at this point, yet I donā€™t see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnā€™t be surgeons because they didnā€™t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canā€™t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

  • Architeuthis@awful.systems
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    Promptfondler proudly messes with oss project (OpenAI subreddit)

    To be clear nothing in the post makes me think they actually did what they are claiming, from doing non-specific ā€˜fixesā€™ to never explicitly saying what the project is other that that it is ā€˜majorā€™ and ā€˜used by manyā€™ to the explicit ā€˜{next product iteration} is gonna be so incredible you guysā€™ tone of the post, itā€™s just the thought of random LLM enthusiasts deciding en masse to play programmer on existing oss projects that makes my hairs stand on end.

    Here they are explaining their process

    Itā€™s code reading and copy pasta.

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      So, all this tells me is that GPT5 is going to be scary good and I canā€™t wait.

      Amazing how much tech hype nowadays is ā€˜the next version will be great!ā€™. Parts of this always have existed, and there is also the other part of tech hype ā€˜You donā€™t get it, this isnā€™t just tech, this allows you to be A Platform!ā€™. Vast fields of new possibilities, always just out of reach. Fusion is 17.6 years away people!

      E: Related to that, also see how people always need to shift to the next big thing. The next codebase will fix your problems, no the next new AI system will be better, dump the old and learn the new thing. (Donā€™t forget to not notice you are not actually doing things, just learning new systems over and over).

      What do you mean ā€œfixedā€ an entire repo? How were you prompting and what were you fixing?

      crickets

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        I was mentally prepared to get irrationally angry, but fortunately this is such incoherent word salad that itā€™s not even wrong.

        I love seeing these before they get deleted every month or so. Great examples of why you always should take your meds.

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        Amazing that when there is pushback against his ideas he starts to ad hominem call people professors.

        (there was this talk/article about how to recognize a crank I forgot the link/source but iirc ā€˜reacting badly to pushbackā€™ and ā€˜always trying to solve the biggest open problems firstsā€™ are two things on the list).

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        At least they get called on being a word salad merchant in that sub, the response in r/openai is basically rapturous.

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        The halting problem relates because in a similar way it is saying that there cannot be a single algorithm that solves everything within the system thus the system needs algorithms that can do ā€œworkā€ to solve complex problems. NP-complete problems are out of reach for todayā€™s classical compute systems and thus quantum computing could approach them and unlock them faster i.e. the speedup. This does reflect Godelā€™s incompleteness theorems.

        I need a shorter name for the whole genre of person thatā€™s on way too many uppers and wonā€™t stop using ChatGPT all night to make all their decisions, cause we keep running into them and for some reason all of them are obsessed with CS woo

        maybe weā€™re really just witnessing what happens when your ā€œnootropicā€ habit gets out of hand and youā€™re still in debt from gambling on crypto, so you get high as shit and convince yourself youā€™re a genius because whenever you read the tea leaves they tell you exactly what you expected to hear. this is, unfortunately, how cults tend to form.

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          ā€œPresumably-outsourced non-thinkerā€ but unfortunately itā€™s not as snappy as promptfans and promptfondlers

          Prompt-deciduous?

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        Like OP, I also learned about Gƶdelā€™s incompleteness theorems and was struck with a sense of profundity despite not having the mathematical grounding to come to any meaningful conclusions from this. Unlike OP, I donā€™t ramble about the things I donā€™t really understand.

        (I do, however, ramble about protein structure and biochemistry, which is very cool, and also my jam)

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      I donā€™t even get what the guy is claiming to do here. Hope he didnā€™t try sending his fixes upstream.