I’d be careful with this example. One of the key issues people take with the UN that they indeed can’t enforce things, like in Gaza. Security council approved a ceasefire, but the fighting goes on. Russia doing genocide in Ukraine, UN tells RU that they need to stop being bad.
For the record they of course do stuff, but if you’d like to advocate for anarchism I’d use a more effective example. If even the UN can’t stand up to fascism, what shot does an anarchy have, ya know?
The only group enforcing things in Gaza is Israel. UN or no UN, nothing changes there so any idiot complaining about the UN for not fixing it is misguided.
The UN is not an example of anarchism, it’s a collection of authoritarian states with a lot of hierarchy. It’s an example of voluntary mutual framework where force does not have to be used to create progress.
That’s what I mean. That’s a very weird example for you to use in this case, pick a different organization if you wanna talk about how great anarchism is. The UN ain’t it.
Maybe I’m misunderstanding, but you could have central planning, but they wouldn’t have any authority…
They would have the authority of the groups they represent.
Think of the UN, they don’t have power to enforce things yet they get shit done all over the world.
Is it perfect? No
Is anything perfect? No
Is it better than authoritarianism? Yes.
I’d be careful with this example. One of the key issues people take with the UN that they indeed can’t enforce things, like in Gaza. Security council approved a ceasefire, but the fighting goes on. Russia doing genocide in Ukraine, UN tells RU that they need to stop being bad.
For the record they of course do stuff, but if you’d like to advocate for anarchism I’d use a more effective example. If even the UN can’t stand up to fascism, what shot does an anarchy have, ya know?
The only group enforcing things in Gaza is Israel. UN or no UN, nothing changes there so any idiot complaining about the UN for not fixing it is misguided.
The UN is not an example of anarchism, it’s a collection of authoritarian states with a lot of hierarchy. It’s an example of voluntary mutual framework where force does not have to be used to create progress.
That’s what I mean. That’s a very weird example for you to use in this case, pick a different organization if you wanna talk about how great anarchism is. The UN ain’t it.