When we post to Beehaw communties the posts will become hosted exclusively on our lemmy.world instance and not interact with other instances.
Further info:
https://lemmy.world/comment/205763
https://beehaw.org/post/567170
I just found out about this and it’s very disheartening. I can see trolls being a valid problem but the solution is more mods. What beehaw did is very detrimental to the health of the fediverse, especially in the most crucial month. With two of the largest instances split from each other, it’ll be twice as hard to grow a critical mass of content.
I’m blocking all beehaw communities myself. I don’t want to contribute to a instance where the admins are selfish.
What beehaw did is very detrimental to the health of the fediverse, especially in the most crucial month.
I don’t blame them though. They are running a really specific community with it’s own culture and it ended up getting disrupted and diluted by the influx of new users.
In a month everything will calm down and I hope they refederate again.
I blame them for not trying anything else.
This is like… Getting a flu and deciding to chop off their nose.
“We tried nothing, and we’re out of ideas.”
Personally, I like Beehaw. They’ve got a good thing going, so I hope they get moderation squared away and re-federate. But they de-federated at a critical time, and I think they’ll do themselves more harm than they’ll do the fediverse.
I suspect we’re going to see a lot of churn in the ‘verse in the coming days weeks and months. New instances will arise and disappear frequently. Eventually things will stabilize with most users on a few enduring servers, with new ones popping up less frequently than they do now.
Beehaw may be an early casualty of the churn. If so, they’ll provide an object lesson in how not to manage such transitions.
it’ll be twice as hard to grow a critical mass of content.
According to lemmy explorer, if you sort both by number of users and by active users, lemmy.world and lemmy.ml are the 2 biggest servers by a good amount.
Beehaw is 3rd, other servers are behind but many of them are still pretty new.
Even if Beehaw decides to stay on their own, there’s more than enough “critical mass” to keep an healthy flow of content.
With two of the largest instances split from each other
They’re not, there’s no block between lemmy.world and lemmy.ml.
A lot of recent lemmy.world users I’ve seen have claimed that they came from beehaw after being upset by the defederation and how they are running it.
Thanks for adding those links. It’s interesting to see both perspectives. I kind of agree with both sides to a degree, it’s unfortunate all around.
I don’t. The answer is for beehaw to bring on more admins and work through the increase of traffic.
Just as lemmy is catching on, beehaw throws a wrench in things and makes the experience worse and more confusing for people. It’s self centered and selfish. It’s not thinking about what’s best for lemmy as a whole.
Could this be a temporary measure on their part until Lemmy adds better moderation tools or they can recruit more moderators to keep some sort of positive control?
You should see the laundry list of demands they have. They’re an admin team of 4 who grew their server to be the 3rd largest on lemmy, then decided it was too much work.
It’s so self-centered.
Yeah, I left Beehaw. I understand what they’re trying to do, but I think they shouldn’t have tried to grow so much if they were intent on being such a walled garden. There was so much conversation on Reddit for people to come to Beehaw, and now the rug gets pulled out.
Beehaw almost reminds of Tildes in that regard. They want to be their own safe, insular community. That’s totally fine, but the fact that at first Beehaw seemed to want to grow and be a big part of the community before abruptly changing their mind is the frustrating part.
If they weren’t one of the largest instances OR if they were just that way from the beginning it would have been much more understandable and less frustrating.
I was super into their philosophy at the beginning, but this abrupt change is disappointing.
