Texas leads the charge

  • jimbolauski@lemm.ee
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    7 months ago

    I’m not the one making the claim here, you are.

    You keep claiming illegal is always derogatory even though the definition states otherwise.

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      7 months ago

      The definition does not indicate it can be not derogatory—which makes sense because it’s derogatory.

      You despite claiming sans evidence that it is possible to refer to a human being with a pejorative adjective and it be anything other than derogatory, won’t even back up your claim with a single non-derogatory example of its use.

      I get why you won’t—'cause you can’t—but if you were right you’d think You could give an example rather than litigating the implied corollaries to “sometimes”.

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        7 months ago

        The definition does not indicate it can be not derogatory—which makes sense because it’s derogatory.

        It does that what sometimes means. They would use the word always or possiblly omit it and state illegal is derogatory. They instead use sometimes.

        If you can’t be honest about the definition of the word sometimes then why would you be honest about if the statement is derogatory.

        Tell you what, if you can show when sometimes indicates something always happens I’ll give an example.

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          7 months ago

          “Sometimes” is different than “Sometimes although not always

          That I why I had to use different words to type the two different concepts.
          Your definition only listed the first, which does not inherently indicate the second.

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            7 months ago

            “Sometimes” is different than “Sometimes although not always”

            That’s a common mistake to think that but sometimes and not always have the same meaning. Your mistake is so common that there are many articles highlighting this redundancy.

            https://brians.wsu.edu/2016/05/31/sometimes-always/

            sometimes always

            Expressions like “not always,” “don’t always,” and “aren’t always” overlap in meaning with “sometimes,” but don’t belong in the same phrase with this word—they’re redundant.

            “Sometimes I don’t always feel like jogging” doesn’t make any sense. Say either “sometimes I don’t feel like jogging” or “I don’t always feel like jogging.”

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              7 months ago

              The link you offered does not seem authoritative.
              The example it proffered of:

              “Sometimes I don’t always feel like jogging” doesn’t make any sense.

              Makes perfect sense.

              Are you going to keep litigating “Sometimes inherently means sometimes not” or are you going to provide an example of a non-pejorative use of referring to a human being as though they themself were illegal?

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                7 months ago

                The link you offered does not seem authoritative.

                I think a PHD in comparative literature is more than authoritative enough.

                https://brians.wsu.edu/

                The quote was from a series of entries entitled “Common Errors in English Usage”

                “Sometimes I don’t always feel like jogging” doesn’t make any sense.

                Makes perfect sense.

                I’m sure it makes sense to you, there are many people that make that mistake.

                Here’s another link. I’m still waiting for any link that shows sometimes can mean always.

                https://www.beedictionary.com/common-errors/sometimes_not_always_vs_sometimes_vs_not_always

                Expressions like “not always,” “don’t always,” and “aren’t always” overlap in meaning with “sometimes,” but don’t belong in the same phrase with this word—they’re redundant. “Sometimes I don’t always feel like jogging” doesn’t make any sense. Say either “sometimes I don’t feel like jogging” or “I don’t always feel like jogging.”

                Here’s another link to help you understand the difference between sometimes and always.

                https://linguodan.com/en/difference-adverbs-frequency-en/

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                  7 months ago

                  I’m happy for you …or sorry that happened.

                  That’s alot of words which notably are not an example of the adjective “illegal” being used as though it were a noun to describe a human being and it not being derogatory.

                  Come on, bill Clinton. You just gonna yap about what “is” is or you gonna prove your point? Make with the example.

                  • jimbolauski@lemm.ee
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                    7 months ago

                    Don’t get upset, lots of people have issues understanding how sometimes is used. I have a lot of trouble understanding the nuances of a 2nd language.

                    Looks like you’ve ran out of excuses, and moved to name calling. I’ve provided definitions of illegal and sometimes. Showing that illegal can be used as a noun and sometimes that the use of illegal as a noun is not derogatory.