• Ð Greıt Þu̇mpkin@lemm.ee
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    8 months ago

    I just love how “leftists” accuse others of not taking fascism seriously enough and then post shit like this when the opportunity to put up actually presents itself.

    When Fascists Vote, Not Voting is Collaboration.

    That’s not a platitude, that’s basic math, and it’s true even under a not absolutely fucked FPTP system like what we’re stuck with right now, let alone with it.

    When fascism is on the ballot, you vote against it or you are a collaborator. End of story. No debate.

    If you need more convincing than just being informed that the other candidate is a fascist running on a platform of doing fascism, you are a collaborator.

    If ten people are at a table and a Nazi can sit down at that table unchallenged, there are eleven Nazis at that table.

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      8 months ago

      When fascism is on the ballot, you vote against it or you are a collaborator. End of story. No debate.

      I’m voting against it. To be clear, that means a vote for Biden.

      Biden should stop supporting genocide, and you should stop pretending that opposition to genocide is support for Trump.

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        8 months ago

        Look, in past elections we didn’t have to wonder if not voting for a candidate would have lasting implications for the future of this country and the freedom of the world. This election does. I think what has happened, and is continuing to happen, to those in Gaza is gut wrenching. As a father of a 4-year-old, I would be mentally eviscerated if I lost him. I would probably go from “father” to “extremist” in that instance, too.

        It’s hard for me to vote for Biden knowing his support for the state of Israel. I also know I want to be able to vote in the future. I want women to have bodily autonomy. I want marginalized groups to exist and not have their very existence removed from the vernacular. I want the government to remain an agnostic-ish state. I want our allies to stay allies (except for maybe the state of Israel) and our enemies to stay enemies.

        I can also admit to not knowing everything about the geopolitical landscape to know just how much sway Biden may have in his support for the state of Israel. We like to think the president is a king and can snap his fingers to make his will THE will (see all the people thinking Biden can control gas prices, for instance), but that just isn’t so.

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          8 months ago

          Look, in past elections we didn’t have to wonder if not voting for a candidate would have lasting implications for the future of this country and the freedom of the world. This election does.

          I already said I’m voting for Biden. I don’t need to be lectured into doing something I already said I’m gonna do.

          I can also admit to not knowing everything about the geopolitical landscape to know just how much sway Biden may have in his support for the state of Israel. We like to think the president is a king and can snap his fingers to make his will THE will (see all the people thinking Biden can control gas prices, for instance), but that just isn’t so.

          Biden circumvented congress to provide weapons that he knew would be used for genocide.

          If withdrawing his support won’t do anything, we aided a genocide for no reason other than Biden really fucking wanted to. If it will do something, his continued support makes the genocide possible. I do not buy any argument in favor of continuing support for genocide, because there is no good reason for genocide.

          Expecting me to buy the “he isn’t a king” line when he acted by himself without congress in order to sell Netanyahu weapons when he didn’t have to is insulting.