Very weird that I am so old and have literally never heard this mentioned in a TV show or book or movie or anything.

In four out of five states, if you go to prison, you are literally paying for the time you spend there.

As you can guess, this results in crippling debt as soon as you’re released.

The county gets back a fraction of what they hold over your head the rest of your life until you commit suicide(or die naturally and peacefully with the sword of damocles hanging over your head).

$20-$80 a day according to Rutgers.

Counties apparently sue people and employ wage garnishment to get back the money that majority of people obviously cannot pay back.

https://www.rutgers.edu/news/states-unfairly-burdening-incarcerated-people-pay-stay-fees

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        criticize him all you want… after he’s elected.

        we all hate the either/or state of american politics, but it’s still the reality. live in reality, ppl.

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          You consent to all these issues with your vote for Dems. I on the other hand will express democracy by voting for a candidate that opposes this: Jill Stein.

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            you mean to tell me you’re going to vote for jill stein in november? what state do you live in? it better not be a battle ground state

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              Biden or Trump winning is a major loss. Instead build a better party instead of complaining.

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                  Hilarious. Where have liberals been after 2016? 2020? The time is now, and you are trying your best to maintain the control of our government by the rich.

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                Biden or Trump winning is a major loss.

                They aren’t equal. They’re both shit, but they aren’t equal. And I don’t know about you, but I’d rather keep my right to vote, which is under threat thanks to the likes of Trump.

                Instead build a better party instead of complaining.

                Not seeing anything you’ve built. All I see is you complaining about Biden and Trump.

                If you want better, we need electoral reform. Our current system is mathematically biased against third parties.

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                  I’d rather keep my right to vote, which is under threat thanks to the likes of Trump.

                  Why didn’t Trump use these magical powers he supposedly has to take away our right to vote?

                  Not seeing anything you’ve built. All I see is you complaining about Biden and Trump.

                  https://www.gp.org/ Where is yours? What have you done to oppose the rich controlling our government? You consent to it.

                  If you want better, we need electoral reform. Our current system is mathematically biased against third parties.

                  Yes, that’s why I vote for candidates that support ranked choice voting.

                  You vote for candidates that oppose ranked choice voting.

                  See how you have no solutions here?

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                    Why didn’t Trump use these magical powers he supposedly has to take away our right to vote?

                    Because it took them time to rig the SCOTUS.

                    https://www.gp.org/ Where is yours?

                    Yeah, a party that has won exactly zero presidential elections what a party you’ve built. How proud you must be.

                    What have you done to oppose the rich controlling our government? You consent to it.

                    A man abducts you and gives you to choices:

                    • Have sex with him “willingly”

                    • He kills you, and has sex with your corpse

                    Choosing the first option in no way is consensual.

                    Yes, that’s why I vote for candidates that support ranked choice voting.

                    Good for you.

                    You vote for candidates that oppose ranked choice voting.

                    Factually incorrect.

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                  How do you think you get electoral reform? Because the democrats sure as hell are never gonna give it to you if you keep voting for their garbage bottom of the barrel candidates. American politics really are a shit show, you’re trying to act like you’re the reasonable one but getting so damn belligerent.

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                    How do you think you get electoral reform?

                    Mass protests, general strikes, voting in progressives that actually stand a chance, etc.

                    Because the democrats sure as hell are never gonna give it to you

                    I know they won’t, which is why you vote in the primaries.

                    You know who sure as hell are never gonna give it to you? Third party candidates. You can’t make reform if you don’t get voted into office in the first place.

                    you keep voting for their garbage bottom of the barrel candidates.

                    Genrrallt you don’t get bottom of the barrel candidates if you actually work to put forth good candidates in the primaries. And a bottom of the barrel democrat with always be better than an outright fascist republican.

                    you’re trying to act like you’re the reasonable one but getting so damn belligerent.

                    Hey, if you don’t like how I’m responding, maybe don’t start with saying things like

                    • “build a better party instead of complaining.”

                    Practice what you speak.

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      I vote third party.

      Choosing between a giant douche and a turd sandwich isn’t very appealing to me.

      Also, people like you pretending you didn’t need the votes of people like me is how we got Trump in the first place.

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        sure. hold humanity hostage because you can’t get exactly what you want, traitor. i’m not going to kiss your ass to vote for practical results. if you’re too blind to see what you’re doing, you can live with the consequences. i have a feeling you have a lot more time left on this planet than i do, junior.

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          Jesus Christ, you’re calling another person a traitor over… this. XD

          You Americans are like a bad parody. What a terrible farce this is.

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            In a two party system, voting third party will only ever result in your vote being thrown out. It is taking a stand against reality for the sake of your own personal idealism.

            A lot of left-aligned voters learned that lesson the hard way in 2016. If you didn’t learn the lesson, you either weren’t paying attention or your idealism is more important to you than the actual outcome of the vote.

            Doing that willingly, despite (or maybe because) the rest of your side screaming at you not to fuck this up again, is absolutely a level of betrayal.

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              Yeah, this whole explanation is just you saying “Our country is broken and I don’t want to fix it”.

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              Yea OK, just keep voting for same parties over and over again. Let’s just maintain the shitty status quo where nothing really gets better regardless of who is in office!

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                So your solution is to vote in protest for a party you know won’t win.

                I’m actually curious now, what possible good do you think that’s doing?

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        Blah blah blah same propaganda, same lies. Even a fool could say you’re trying to get Trump elected.