So there’s never a time when voting for a third party that isn’t projected to be in the running is acceptable?
Knowing that the institutional acceptance and funding mechanisms for third parties are tied to their turnout and that third party turnout signals to the two main parties where they could shift to get votes?
What’s so funny? The Perot campaign defined messaging on nafta and put us on track to run candidates who would replace it over two decades before it happened.
It’s easy to laugh at and dismiss third parties or accelerationism, and maybe that kind of rhetoric works on twitter or whatever, but refusal to engage with or critique ideas is the mark of a deeply unserious outlook.
To your point about the structure of the system, if you never color outside the lines, you’ll never end up with anything different than what was intended when the page was printed.
Its funny because you’re still trying to package it like Biden and Trump are just a hairs-width apart in policy and track record, and then bake in all these and-thens on top.
The fact is the risk of a Trump presidency is too big of a threat not to snuff out. If you don’t believe that, then your head has been up your ass for the last 8 years.
From where I’m standing, Biden has more border detentions, let Covid rip, is funding a genocide, didn’t protect roe and is currently supporting a crackdown on protesters.
That’s just what popped into my head sitting here on the edge of a mop sink. Biden of course has a terrible record going back fifty years so maybe don’t invoke records if you wanna make a side by side comparison where genocide Joe comes out smelling less shitty.
It’s hard to place the two men on a continuum between best and worst when they both just look like bespoke types of bad.
I’m not the only person who sees them this way. Biden lost the youth and “progressive” (whatever that means) vote. Can he tack far enough right to win without them? I don’t know and I don’t care.
I haven’t been both sidesing. They’re not the same, they’re just both bad.
I’m sorry you don’t like me saying that, but truly, how am I supposed to describe the at best centrist democrat candidate who’s electoral strategy seems to be flanking his opponent on the right?
That’s a pretty creative cut there. Watch out with that kind of stuff, we’re posting on world and they hate someone breaking their precious Reddit debate rules.
I’m sorry that you don’t have any argument other than to accuse me of both sidesing.
Biden is actively implementing a bunch of the same policies as trump plus doing some stuff in a uniquely different but still bad way.
You say you don’t want fascism and that’s why you’ll do anything to avoid trump. You currently have fascism under Biden. When do you lose faith in the electoral system? I asked earlier but when do you stop trying to pick the best genocide and put all your energy behind actually fighting it?
So there’s never a time when voting for a third party that isn’t projected to be in the running is acceptable?
Knowing that the institutional acceptance and funding mechanisms for third parties are tied to their turnout and that third party turnout signals to the two main parties where they could shift to get votes?
Not while FPTP is the system
HA!
What’s so funny? The Perot campaign defined messaging on nafta and put us on track to run candidates who would replace it over two decades before it happened.
It’s easy to laugh at and dismiss third parties or accelerationism, and maybe that kind of rhetoric works on twitter or whatever, but refusal to engage with or critique ideas is the mark of a deeply unserious outlook.
To your point about the structure of the system, if you never color outside the lines, you’ll never end up with anything different than what was intended when the page was printed.
Its funny because you’re still trying to package it like Biden and Trump are just a hairs-width apart in policy and track record, and then bake in all these and-thens on top.
The fact is the risk of a Trump presidency is too big of a threat not to snuff out. If you don’t believe that, then your head has been up your ass for the last 8 years.
From where I’m standing, Biden has more border detentions, let Covid rip, is funding a genocide, didn’t protect roe and is currently supporting a crackdown on protesters.
That’s just what popped into my head sitting here on the edge of a mop sink. Biden of course has a terrible record going back fifty years so maybe don’t invoke records if you wanna make a side by side comparison where genocide Joe comes out smelling less shitty.
It’s hard to place the two men on a continuum between best and worst when they both just look like bespoke types of bad.
I’m not the only person who sees them this way. Biden lost the youth and “progressive” (whatever that means) vote. Can he tack far enough right to win without them? I don’t know and I don’t care.
Yes yes, I’m well acquainted with your both-sideserism.
I haven’t been both sidesing. They’re not the same, they’re just both bad.
I’m sorry you don’t like me saying that, but truly, how am I supposed to describe the at best centrist democrat candidate who’s electoral strategy seems to be flanking his opponent on the right?
They’re not just “both bad”, both-sideser.
That’s a pretty creative cut there. Watch out with that kind of stuff, we’re posting on world and they hate someone breaking their precious Reddit debate rules.
I’m sorry that you don’t have any argument other than to accuse me of both sidesing.
Biden is actively implementing a bunch of the same policies as trump plus doing some stuff in a uniquely different but still bad way.
You say you don’t want fascism and that’s why you’ll do anything to avoid trump. You currently have fascism under Biden. When do you lose faith in the electoral system? I asked earlier but when do you stop trying to pick the best genocide and put all your energy behind actually fighting it?