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    2 years ago

    The misuse of this meme is one of my biggest meme pet peeves. Have people forgotten that in that scene, his vision is clear when he’s not wearing glasses? So the meme should be the other way around.

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      Like many memes, this one exists outside of the original oeuvre (movie, painting, etc). For instance, I have not see the movie it comes from, it wouldn’t makes sense to me if it was the other way around.

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    Honestly, my biggest fear if Apple ever allows other browser engines on iOS is that developers will stop testing on anything other than Chrome. And they will tell iPhone users to “just download Chrome.”

    I’ve already heard so many places tell people not to use Firefox or Safari to access their website. It’s IE 6 all over again. I hate Chrome and refuse to use it.

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        I hate how everybody seems to be OK with this because Chromium is nominally open-source, when that ended up being the whole reason we are in this mess.

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          Being “open source” seems to be lead people to think it is altruistic or good for the community as a whole.

          Being open source is really just a categorization. A fully for profit organization can make something valuable open source and then leverage that for commercial reasons (like building highly monetized additional code on top).

          It is in Google’s best interests for Chromium to dominate the web even if it is open source due to Chrome’s broad reach and Google’s heavy leverage of the web for revenue, like its ad services.

          It is shortsighted to see what is happening and then go “well I don’t see a problem”.

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            Exactly. So many browser developers adopted it because it’s open-source and eliminated the work of having to build the rendering engine.

            Meanwhile, Google is basically dictating the future of the Web because of this. Web developers are only testing on Chrome, and Google is about to kill ad blockers on every browser except Firefox and Safari because they control the rendering engine. What else are you gonna do?

            “lol just download Chrome!”

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              The extensive reach of Chromium is usually a bit understated too. For example, Chromium is what powers all Electron applications., and as much as we want to gripe about the nightmare Electron has enabled, it still has wide reach. Building for Electron means building for Chromium, and building for Chromium often entails leveraging what is available in Chrome/Electron/etc over what is standard. These frequently overlap, but when they don’t, the blame is then placed on the browser rather than on the website (i.e. why doesn’t XYZ work on Firefox, when the reason is the website developer chose not to test/ensure it does work).

              This gets very funny in some situations where visiting a website in Firefox throws a “not supported” page but switching the user-string to Chrome/Chromium results in the same website working just fine.

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      Yes, it’s a sad state of affairs that Apple’s restrictions on iOS and iPadOS browsers are the only thing stopping an effective Google monopoly over web browsers. Ideally Firefox would still keep things in balance, but Mozilla doesn’t seem to know what it’s doing these days in terms of building market share - and I say that as a long time Firefox user.

      I still remember the IE 6 era, and I hope we never see a single browser dominate the web again. To those wishing Apple would be forced to open up, be careful what you wish for.

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        Firefox is in a pickle, because unlike the IE/Firefox, where FF was winning share by the boatload against a stagnant competitor, Chrome is super actively developed, active and heavily pushed by Google. Basically FF is now kept alive by Google the way you’d keep a single competitor city alive in Civilization to ensure you game wouldn’t end with a military/domination victory. FF is a Native American reservation surrounded by white folks not giving a shit about what happens on your dust bowl.

        But yes, FF for life for me!

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          Sure, it’s open-source, but Google essentially controls it. That is literally why they forked WebKit. And websites are starting to rely on Chromium’s quirks. Firefox and Safari will have to choose between following standards or Google’s quirks. Not ideal at all.

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    Ah… the first repost I’ve seen on the threadiverse thus far. I hope this doesn’t become a trend.

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    I hate chromium.

    It acts like chrome because IT IS CHROME!!! Minus the obvious branding and proprietary “Google-y bits” Unfortunately it’s the same codebase.

    At least Firefox at it’s core truly differs.

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      The only reason Chromium exists is because Google is bound by the original license when they bought it, which is copyleft. So they have to release an open source version, which is Chromium. Google Chrome is their flagship product and is proprietary and hence is the one that bears the Google branding and colours.

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        From what I understand, Gecko was a terrible engine from the get-go. It is also difficult to work with, and had a lot of idiosyncrasies that made hard to build anything that isn’t just a clone of Firefox. There’s a reason why Apple used KHTML as the basis of Safari and not Gecko. Even Brave is based off of Chromium, and the founder of Brave is one of Mozilla’s founders!

        So apparently no, Gecko is not it. We need something closer to a pure browser engine that is open source.

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        When that source, open or otherwise, is unilaterally controlled by Google, that doesn’t really mean much

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          No, it’s not. It’s open source and can be modified from Google’s baseline to be free of their restrictions by anyone who cares to put in the work, like Brave and Vivaldi.

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            Are people able to make meaningful contributions to the project upstream to steer the direction of the web as an open platform?

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              In every way Linux has the potential to in a world where 99% of people would rather just use Windows, sure.

              Most people are just going to use Chrome and don’t give a shit. If you’re developing/using a different browser then yeah you probably have the ability to significantly impact the way web browsing happens going forward. As any fork of chromium is it’s own thing and has the ability to become the new standard.

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        People are worried that Google controls the project. Anyone using Chromium is basically making their own version of Chrome but with extra features.

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    Yeah, ain’t this the truth. Firefox and safari are the only browsers that arent chromium based. We must protect Firefox at all coats! Without it, Google would have a monopoly on the browser space… a world I would not like to live in.

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    Nothing is worse than seeing chromium-based browser users fight other chromium-based browser users. You are all using the same fucking thing!

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      “It’s funny to see people who use cars with V-8’s argue about other models and makes of cars with V-8’s, you’re all using the same fucking thing!”

      See how absolutely stupid as fuck that sounds? Cause all cars are different even though they use virtual identical model of engines? That’s what you sound like.